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Tea Parties...........WDYT??
I seem to remember the right wing media outlets foaming at the mouth when a Professor from UVM suggested we Vermonters secede. But the Governor of Texas suggests it and....nothing. Where's all the unpatriotic, traitor banter? Why aren't they calling for his head? Oh yeah....that's W's state.Ron in South Texas wrote:Ah Heck...our "wonderful" Governor Perry is threatening to leave the Union. Not sure on the legality of that, but Texas does have the right to split into 5 states. So, we could add ten senators and a zillion reps to congress. Shoot, we'll just take over Congress and impose our Texas will on the whole country.
Some of you think Bush was an idiot...wait till get to know Gov. Perry. He makes "W" look like a rocket scientist!!
I'm going to see KC in San Antonio on the 1st of May...can't wait!!
Have fun seeing Kenny!
1) Was Truman a "warmonger" when he dropped the bombs? Was FDR a warmonger? Nixon? LBJ? Bush 41? Clinton when he was "policing the world"? How about Grant? Lincoln? Or, is Bush the only "warmonger" because he waged a war that you did not agree with?
Ending world wars, slavery, exiting wars we were losing, reuniting the country are far more noble deeds than inventing bogus intelligence as a thinly veiled excuse to "protect our national security" by invading another country that was clearly no threat to us. I think LBJ was a warmonger, Nixon got us out. Clinton should have been more agressive. Standing by and watching genocide in the Balkans and Rwanda was wrong. The Kenedy's were certainly crooks, but I doubt they milked this country for as much dough as Bush/Cheney did with all the no-bid contracts they gave to Haliburton.
2) And I agree with SJ. There are very few, if any, centrists in the state of VT.
It is ignorant statements like this that makes Homeland Security concerned about the right-wing extremeists. I do believe the were actually talking about skin-heads and Neo-nazis etc...but the point is, the reason those folks are scary is that they actually believe the hate filled, ignorant comments that endlessley come out of their mouths.If you truly believe their are no centrists in Vermont, I'd love to hear the facts and how you came about them. My knowlege is first-hand...yours?
3) This administration is an absolute joke. I thought job 1 was getting Bin Laden? It appears Job 1 is marginalizing your critics - right out of the Rules for Radicals Handbook!
What exactly are you saying here? Apply the same questions to the Bush administration. If Bin Laden is job #1, why are we bogged down with most of our resources still in Iraq. Last I knew, he was never there! As far as maginalizing your critics being job #1, that's a page right out of the Bush/Cheney foreign policy playbook. Why do you think a good portion of the world thinks were jerks for "going it alone". We've put up with eight years of that crap from the right. It hasn't even been 4 months! As I've pointed out before....sore losers.
4) It seems you are able to quote Hannity and O'Reilly well, see osmosis does work. Keep listening, you will be able to truly comprehend what spending money we don’t have will do to our future Freedom and Unity.
I have watched a lot of Fox News. I find it irritatingly entertaining. I'm intelligent enough to be able to extract what little actual news is being diseminated amongst the right leaning ranting. All the while chuckling to myself about all the dim-witted people who buy all the hype and propoganda. I will say the same for CNN and MSNBC....there are plenty of ass-monkeys spewing leftie rhetoric as well. Fox seems to maintain that stiff, superior deadpan regardless of how outrageously stupid whatever they are saying is. Recently, (since the election) they've become much more whiny. I simply can't watch. I'm glad we have the internet.
I don't recall any right-wingers complaining about Bush "spending money we don’t have will do to our future Freedom and Unity.". In fact all their rich pals made billions while the country got spent into a huge hole in the ground. The fat cats from the oil companies and Haliburton sure didn't seem too concerned with our "future freedom and unity". What is that "future freedom and unity" crap anyway some stupid mantra you've been fed by right-wing talk radio propagandists? Sorry, call me juvenile, but I still giggle like a school girl when I envision wrinkled old white conservatives "teabagging" eachother. Heheheheeee!
End Note:
"There has been plenty of nastiness that has gone around here, not all propegated by me. I believe someone told SJ that his family must be in the mob because he is from New Jersey.
You also have a very short memory when it comes to the names I have been called (douche). At this point, I don't remember who said it, but it doesn't change the fact that you choose only to focus on me saying that there are no "centrists" living in VT."
I just want to clarify a few things. I never accused SJ of being a mobster. My intent was to point out that saying Vermonters are all lefties is as offensive as saying all people from NJ are mobsters. No offense was meant.
As far as politics go, I still maintain that I am a centrist. I am admittedley fed up with the last 8 years of Bush politics. Much like my friends SJ and Soxfan, I too have a pretty thick skin and can give/or take a healthy barb in the process of debating politics. We are likely to never agree on much except for disdain for the extreme left (hopefully the extreme right too), and that's ok. This is America and a healthy disagreement is exercising our freedom. I'd gladly buy my conservative friends a beer at the Beach Bar. It's just politics....
Ending world wars, slavery, exiting wars we were losing, reuniting the country are far more noble deeds than inventing bogus intelligence as a thinly veiled excuse to "protect our national security" by invading another country that was clearly no threat to us. I think LBJ was a warmonger, Nixon got us out. Clinton should have been more agressive. Standing by and watching genocide in the Balkans and Rwanda was wrong. The Kenedy's were certainly crooks, but I doubt they milked this country for as much dough as Bush/Cheney did with all the no-bid contracts they gave to Haliburton.
2) And I agree with SJ. There are very few, if any, centrists in the state of VT.
It is ignorant statements like this that makes Homeland Security concerned about the right-wing extremeists. I do believe the were actually talking about skin-heads and Neo-nazis etc...but the point is, the reason those folks are scary is that they actually believe the hate filled, ignorant comments that endlessley come out of their mouths.If you truly believe their are no centrists in Vermont, I'd love to hear the facts and how you came about them. My knowlege is first-hand...yours?
3) This administration is an absolute joke. I thought job 1 was getting Bin Laden? It appears Job 1 is marginalizing your critics - right out of the Rules for Radicals Handbook!
What exactly are you saying here? Apply the same questions to the Bush administration. If Bin Laden is job #1, why are we bogged down with most of our resources still in Iraq. Last I knew, he was never there! As far as maginalizing your critics being job #1, that's a page right out of the Bush/Cheney foreign policy playbook. Why do you think a good portion of the world thinks were jerks for "going it alone". We've put up with eight years of that crap from the right. It hasn't even been 4 months! As I've pointed out before....sore losers.
4) It seems you are able to quote Hannity and O'Reilly well, see osmosis does work. Keep listening, you will be able to truly comprehend what spending money we don’t have will do to our future Freedom and Unity.
I have watched a lot of Fox News. I find it irritatingly entertaining. I'm intelligent enough to be able to extract what little actual news is being diseminated amongst the right leaning ranting. All the while chuckling to myself about all the dim-witted people who buy all the hype and propoganda. I will say the same for CNN and MSNBC....there are plenty of ass-monkeys spewing leftie rhetoric as well. Fox seems to maintain that stiff, superior deadpan regardless of how outrageously stupid whatever they are saying is. Recently, (since the election) they've become much more whiny. I simply can't watch. I'm glad we have the internet.
I don't recall any right-wingers complaining about Bush "spending money we don’t have will do to our future Freedom and Unity.". In fact all their rich pals made billions while the country got spent into a huge hole in the ground. The fat cats from the oil companies and Haliburton sure didn't seem too concerned with our "future freedom and unity". What is that "future freedom and unity" crap anyway some stupid mantra you've been fed by right-wing talk radio propagandists? Sorry, call me juvenile, but I still giggle like a school girl when I envision wrinkled old white conservatives "teabagging" eachother. Heheheheeee!
End Note:
"There has been plenty of nastiness that has gone around here, not all propegated by me. I believe someone told SJ that his family must be in the mob because he is from New Jersey.
You also have a very short memory when it comes to the names I have been called (douche). At this point, I don't remember who said it, but it doesn't change the fact that you choose only to focus on me saying that there are no "centrists" living in VT."
I just want to clarify a few things. I never accused SJ of being a mobster. My intent was to point out that saying Vermonters are all lefties is as offensive as saying all people from NJ are mobsters. No offense was meant.
As far as politics go, I still maintain that I am a centrist. I am admittedley fed up with the last 8 years of Bush politics. Much like my friends SJ and Soxfan, I too have a pretty thick skin and can give/or take a healthy barb in the process of debating politics. We are likely to never agree on much except for disdain for the extreme left (hopefully the extreme right too), and that's ok. This is America and a healthy disagreement is exercising our freedom. I'd gladly buy my conservative friends a beer at the Beach Bar. It's just politics....
Cid - all this Halliburton talk is giving me flashbacks to 2004 
. It's funny though, leftists still cling on to this Haliburton smokescreen, yet they have absolutely no problem when Obama adds $4 billion of our tax dollars to the stimulus plan that will be sent directly to ACORN. At least as taxpayers we got something from Haliburton!
And as for Bush alienating the world...His administration brought China into the talks with North Korea, making them multilateral talks...The left at the time KILLED him for that move because they thought that situation called for unilateral talks...They wanted him to reach out - he did - and they killed him anyway. I mean, you really can't make this stuff up!
In relation to Vermont...Your cheese is outstanding. Your politicians, not so much. State's exhibit 1: Howard Dean. I wish he would've stayed in medicine.
. It's funny though, leftists still cling on to this Haliburton smokescreen, yet they have absolutely no problem when Obama adds $4 billion of our tax dollars to the stimulus plan that will be sent directly to ACORN. At least as taxpayers we got something from Haliburton!And as for Bush alienating the world...His administration brought China into the talks with North Korea, making them multilateral talks...The left at the time KILLED him for that move because they thought that situation called for unilateral talks...They wanted him to reach out - he did - and they killed him anyway. I mean, you really can't make this stuff up!
In relation to Vermont...Your cheese is outstanding. Your politicians, not so much. State's exhibit 1: Howard Dean. I wish he would've stayed in medicine.
July 2003 - Honeymoon at The Westin
July 2004 - Glenmar, Gifft Hill
July 2005 - Arco Iris, Fish Bay
December 2007 - Dreamcatcher, GCB
July 2008 - Ellison Villa, VGE
July 2004 - Glenmar, Gifft Hill
July 2005 - Arco Iris, Fish Bay
December 2007 - Dreamcatcher, GCB
July 2008 - Ellison Villa, VGE
Sox,
You don't need to pick apart every word I say. By minority, I meant power. If more believe in Conservative values, they either didn't vote or they got very confused.
You don't need to post back about that. I am not in the mood for a back and forth argument that you like so much.
I am sorry you feel like I have chosen you to to pick on. But the tone of your posts do really jump out to me as different than many of the other conservative posters. I am sure there are others that get nasty as well, but I have noticed your name. Sorry if it seems unfair. Others vent, but for most it doesn't seem so personal and nasty.
But just a word of advice, if you claim to be a principled person...live by the Golden Rule and be civil. You will win more over to our side that way.
If you are frustrated to the point of feeling nasty, vent to someone at home on your side. That is what I do when I am upset about the way things are going.
Even better, see if you can get involved in a constructive way. If you are a great salesperson, maybe you can raise money by "preaching to the choir". You seem to have lots of energy that I am sure our party can use.
You don't need to pick apart every word I say. By minority, I meant power. If more believe in Conservative values, they either didn't vote or they got very confused.
You don't need to post back about that. I am not in the mood for a back and forth argument that you like so much.
I am sorry you feel like I have chosen you to to pick on. But the tone of your posts do really jump out to me as different than many of the other conservative posters. I am sure there are others that get nasty as well, but I have noticed your name. Sorry if it seems unfair. Others vent, but for most it doesn't seem so personal and nasty.
But just a word of advice, if you claim to be a principled person...live by the Golden Rule and be civil. You will win more over to our side that way.
If you are frustrated to the point of feeling nasty, vent to someone at home on your side. That is what I do when I am upset about the way things are going.
Even better, see if you can get involved in a constructive way. If you are a great salesperson, maybe you can raise money by "preaching to the choir". You seem to have lots of energy that I am sure our party can use.
"Sponges grow in the ocean...I wonder how much deeper it would be if that didn't happen."
re the topic at hand
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/18/opini ... .html?_r=1
hmm, i say let 'em secede--the savings in medicare spending and homeland security spending alone might justify welcoming the option
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/18/opini ... .html?_r=1
hmm, i say let 'em secede--the savings in medicare spending and homeland security spending alone might justify welcoming the option
< leaving on the 22nd of march...but too lame to figure out the ticker thing again!>
You know,the last time this crap got started on this board Anthony requested that the political bantering stop. Why can't that request be respected? You could say "if you don't like it, just don't read it," but it always eventually ends up bleeding over to other posts and threads.If I was your all's bartender I'd tell you to take this $hit outside.
When you find yourself in a hole.... quit digging.
Ok, so let's name these "so many other countries" that "joined" us in invading Iraq based on the intelligenceSJfromNJ wrote:Cid - In response to your post above:
1. Why did so many other countries join us in the invasion of Iraq? Do you think they thought that Sadom was not a threat? The fact is that Clinton had dismantled the CIA to the point that all the intelligence was flawed. The rest of the free world's intel pointed to WMD's in Iraq. Halliburton is a publically traded company. Why didn't you invest some money in them if you thought they were on the take? You had it figured out so well, but you failed to finish the transaction. Your bad.
2.
3. The US of A did not go it alone (see above). I don't really care what the rest of the world thinks about us, really I don't. Maybe if you have a daughter you would like her to live in Saudi Arabia. Who are you so afraid of?
4. Uhmmm "Freedom and Unity" is the state motto of Vermont. Easy targets them fat cat oil companies. Next you'll be complaining about all the fat cat green windmill makin and solar panel makin dudes not paying any taxes.
What you are fed up with is Republicans who claim to be conservative but act like free spending Democrats. John McCain is not a conservative nor was W.
Cheers!
Bush's own advisors told him wasn't substantiated. I'd love to see the intel reports that you claim "the rest of the free world" had proving that Iraq had WMD's. Where is it? The fact is it doesn't exist. It had nothing to do with Clinton gutting the CIA. Bush ignored the advice of his advisors and evidence that refuted the existence of WMD's because he was already determined to go to Iraq.
Strong arming a few weak countries into joining us is hardly a Coalition as King George proclaimed. These were merely countries that were in a poor position to tell the US, no. Canada rightfully told us where to stick it as did many others. In fact the number of our "allies" that didn't join us far outnumber the amount that did join. Even some who "willingly" joined us bailed out as soon as possible because they had no support for it at home. We would have a lot more support today in Afghanistan if we hadn't falsely invaded Iraq.
As far as Haliburton goes, I find it mildly amusing that Sox can't even come up with a statement to defend Haliburton (read BushCheneyburton) so he immediately moves on to attack funding Acorn. The fact is the contracts to Haliburton were handed, gift wrapped, to them without any competition! I too am suspicious and slightly outraged by the whole Acorn thing. Despite the apparent graft and corruption at Acorn, at least they provide services and housing to Americans. Sox says, "Hey at least we got something from Haliburton".
What exactly did we get for the billions we handed to Haliburton? I'd much rather they spent that money fixing our bridges, schools and roads here than pay for $600 hammers in a country we never should have destroyed in the first place.
So, Bush the great uniter was able to bring China to the table in the North Korea conflict. On the surface that may seem like an accomplishment, but it's not like China didn't have a vested interest in keeping us from bombing the crap out of them. Also adding one party, China, to the talks hardly makes them the multilateral talks that the rest of the world were looking for. Again Bush thumbs his nose at the general consensus around the world and decides to "go it alone" again. Making the appearance of reaching out when you're really not, and tooting your own horn the whole time just reinforces that "cowboy" image that worked so well for Regan but just made Bush look like an idiot.
"In relation to Vermont...Your cheese is outstanding. Your politicians, not so much. State's exhibit 1: Howard Dean. I wish he would've stayed in medicine."
Talk about being stuck in 2004!! You can say what you want about Howard Dean, but he's a huge reason you are on the outside looking in. I'm still not sure how "the yell" somehow made him unelectable. I think he scared the crap out of people on both sides of the aisle. His own party buried him in favor of John Kerry. Kinda sad...I'm not sure if he would have won or if it would have been a good thing for us at the time, but I certainly don't think he got a fair deal. I think he got Ross Perot'd. He scared too many people so they effectively silenced him.
"4. Uhmmm "Freedom and Unity" is the state motto of Vermont. Easy targets them fat cat oil companies. Next you'll be complaining about all the fat cat green windmill makin and solar panel makin dudes not paying any taxes.
What you are fed up with is Republicans who claim to be conservative but act like free spending Democrats. John McCain is not a conservative nor was W."
Ok, I had to laugh at this one. I am soooooo busted! It didn't even register that Freedom and Unity is our state moto.
It still sounds like the rhetoric from right-wing radio! I still don't recall you "consertvatives" complaining while Bush spent 8 years burying our grandchildren's grandchildren in debt.I have noticed in both your postings that whenever I go out of my way to address your rants you never have anything to reply, you simply blurt out something completely off topic or out of context to divert the attention away from the fact that you have no meaningful reply to the original topic. For instance we were referring to the no-bid Haliburton contracts, but since they were basically indefensible, you divert to Acorn. Which may also be hard to defend, but has absolutely nothing to do with Bush, Cheney or Haliburton! Ok, maybe Acorn received money on the Bush watch too, but hey that's completely different too...right?
We were discussing the invasion of Iraq based on faulty intelligence and how we had a lack of world support. You couldn't really defend that either, so you defer to discussing China/North Korea...also completely irrelevant.
It appears your discussion tactics are - "right out of the Rules for Radicals Handbook!" Ignore the obvious and then change the subject....good job!
The same tired liberal arguements.
You Cid, have done what no other liberal on this board was able to do...You have shut me up.
Mission Accomplished.
You Cid, have done what no other liberal on this board was able to do...You have shut me up.
Mission Accomplished.
July 2003 - Honeymoon at The Westin
July 2004 - Glenmar, Gifft Hill
July 2005 - Arco Iris, Fish Bay
December 2007 - Dreamcatcher, GCB
July 2008 - Ellison Villa, VGE
July 2004 - Glenmar, Gifft Hill
July 2005 - Arco Iris, Fish Bay
December 2007 - Dreamcatcher, GCB
July 2008 - Ellison Villa, VGE
Regardless of the count you are right about one thing. Our troops deserve all the credit for the success on the ground in Iraq. They stayed and ensured we got the job done. I hope Iraq can grow in a peaceful manner. I hate the way we got there, but I'm proud of the job we did when we got there. Everyone else bailed and we got it done!SJfromNJ wrote:Twenty eight countries participated in the 2003 coalition invasion of Iraq. Most didn't have the chops to stay the course to secure the victory we now have achieved.
I spent a few minutes Googling and got this tally...
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/eY ... site"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_AjE8pZat5pg/SeqZT ... t.jpg"></a>
From Wiki (which I have no use for as it is often slanted left):
Iraq War Coalition troop deployment[hide]
Active troops Withdrawn troops (2008 - Current) Withdrawn troops (2003 - 2007)
United States: 250,000 invasion
United Kingdom: 45,000 invasion
Australia: 2,000 invasion
TOTAL INVASION DEPLOYMENT
~297,000 troops
CURRENT DEPLOYMENT BY COUNTRY
United States: 138,000 (1/09)
United Kingdom: 4,100 (9/08)
Romania: 730 peak—350 current (1/09; deployed 7/03)
Australia: 145 (1/09)
APPROXIMATE TOTAL DEPLOYMENT AS OF 1/09
142,000 troops (incl. ~4,400 non-U.S.)
APPROXIMATE NUMBER OF CONTRACTORS AS OF 2/08
161,000: 53% (~85,300) Iraqi, 17% (~27,400) American, 30% (~45,500) Other
Including 20–30,000 mercenaries as of 12/07
NATO Training Mission – Iraq
Countries involved with the NATO training mission, NATO NTM-I
El Salvador: 380 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 1/09)
Estonia: 40 troops (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 1/09)
Bulgaria: 485 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Moldova: 24 peak (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Albania: 240 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Ukraine: 1,650 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Denmark: 545 peak (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Czech Republic: 300 peak (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
South Korea: 3,600 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Japan: 600 troops (deployed 1/04-withdrawn 12/08)
Tonga: 55 troops (deployed 7/04-withdrawn 12/08)
Azerbaijan: 250 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Singapore: 175 offshore (12/08; deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 85 peak (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 11/08)
Macedonia: 77 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/08)
Latvia: 136 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 11/08)
Poland: 200 invasion—2,500 peak (withdrawn 10/08)
Kazakhstan: 29 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 10/08)
Armenia: 46 troops (deployed 1/05-withdrawn 10/08)
Mongolia: 180 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 09/08)
Georgia: 2,000 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/08)
Slovakia: 110 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/07)
Lithuania: 120 peak (deployed 6/03-withdrawn 08/07)
Italy: 3,200 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/06)
Norway: 150 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 8/06)
Hungary: 300 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 3/05)
Netherlands: 1,345 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 3/05)
Portugal: 128 troops (deployed 11/03-withdrawn 2/05)
New Zealand: 61 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 9/04)
Thailand: 423 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/04)
Philippines: 51 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/04)
Honduras: 368 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
Dominican Republic: 302 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
Spain: 1,300 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 4/04)
Nicaragua: 230 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 2/04)
Iceland: 2 troops (deployed 5/03-withdrawal date unknown)
Multinational Force Iraq units
Multi-National Force - West
Multi-National Division - Baghdad
Multinational Division Central-South
Multi-National Division - North
Multi-National Division (South-East)
Logistics Support Area Anaconda
I'm no diplomat - but it sure seems as though somebody was on the phone.
Iraq War Coalition troop deployment[hide]
Active troops Withdrawn troops (2008 - Current) Withdrawn troops (2003 - 2007)
United States: 250,000 invasion
United Kingdom: 45,000 invasion
Australia: 2,000 invasion
TOTAL INVASION DEPLOYMENT
~297,000 troops
CURRENT DEPLOYMENT BY COUNTRY
United States: 138,000 (1/09)
United Kingdom: 4,100 (9/08)
Romania: 730 peak—350 current (1/09; deployed 7/03)
Australia: 145 (1/09)
APPROXIMATE TOTAL DEPLOYMENT AS OF 1/09
142,000 troops (incl. ~4,400 non-U.S.)
APPROXIMATE NUMBER OF CONTRACTORS AS OF 2/08
161,000: 53% (~85,300) Iraqi, 17% (~27,400) American, 30% (~45,500) Other
Including 20–30,000 mercenaries as of 12/07
NATO Training Mission – Iraq
Countries involved with the NATO training mission, NATO NTM-I
El Salvador: 380 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 1/09)
Estonia: 40 troops (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 1/09)
Bulgaria: 485 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Moldova: 24 peak (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Albania: 240 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Ukraine: 1,650 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Denmark: 545 peak (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Czech Republic: 300 peak (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
South Korea: 3,600 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Japan: 600 troops (deployed 1/04-withdrawn 12/08)
Tonga: 55 troops (deployed 7/04-withdrawn 12/08)
Azerbaijan: 250 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Singapore: 175 offshore (12/08; deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 85 peak (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 11/08)
Macedonia: 77 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/08)
Latvia: 136 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 11/08)
Poland: 200 invasion—2,500 peak (withdrawn 10/08)
Kazakhstan: 29 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 10/08)
Armenia: 46 troops (deployed 1/05-withdrawn 10/08)
Mongolia: 180 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 09/08)
Georgia: 2,000 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/08)
Slovakia: 110 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/07)
Lithuania: 120 peak (deployed 6/03-withdrawn 08/07)
Italy: 3,200 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/06)
Norway: 150 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 8/06)
Hungary: 300 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 3/05)
Netherlands: 1,345 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 3/05)
Portugal: 128 troops (deployed 11/03-withdrawn 2/05)
New Zealand: 61 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 9/04)
Thailand: 423 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/04)
Philippines: 51 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/04)
Honduras: 368 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
Dominican Republic: 302 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
Spain: 1,300 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 4/04)
Nicaragua: 230 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 2/04)
Iceland: 2 troops (deployed 5/03-withdrawal date unknown)
Multinational Force Iraq units
Multi-National Force - West
Multi-National Division - Baghdad
Multinational Division Central-South
Multi-National Division - North
Multi-National Division (South-East)
Logistics Support Area Anaconda
I'm no diplomat - but it sure seems as though somebody was on the phone.
July 2003 - Honeymoon at The Westin
July 2004 - Glenmar, Gifft Hill
July 2005 - Arco Iris, Fish Bay
December 2007 - Dreamcatcher, GCB
July 2008 - Ellison Villa, VGE
July 2004 - Glenmar, Gifft Hill
July 2005 - Arco Iris, Fish Bay
December 2007 - Dreamcatcher, GCB
July 2008 - Ellison Villa, VGE
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I just clicked on page 6 and I'm not caught up with the happenings here, but just to clarify, this is what Anthony said:JT wrote:You know,the last time this crap got started on this board Anthony requested that the political bantering stop. Why can't that request be respected? You could say "if you don't like it, just don't read it," but it always eventually ends up bleeding over to other posts and threads.If I was your all's bartender I'd tell you to take this $hit outside.
It was here: http://www.virgin-islands-on-line.com/f ... ht=#123294Anthony wrote:Hey - I was just asking everyone to chill out. I am not silencing the left or the right or the center. You guys want to continue to do this, fine. If it is bothering some, you have to stop reading.
Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry.
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Teresa Rae,I hadn't seen that one. I was refering to our moderater's statement from last October, and I quote:
"Like I said, it is the off topic forum, but if you really want to talk politics, I would prefer you use a political blog/forum to do it."
http://www.virgin-islands-on-line.com/f ... php?t=8966
Whatever. I just hate to see the bickering. Sorry, I'll just stay out of it from now on. You keyboard gladiators carry on.
"Like I said, it is the off topic forum, but if you really want to talk politics, I would prefer you use a political blog/forum to do it."
http://www.virgin-islands-on-line.com/f ... php?t=8966
Whatever. I just hate to see the bickering. Sorry, I'll just stay out of it from now on. You keyboard gladiators carry on.
When you find yourself in a hole.... quit digging.
I just find it amusing that it is generally those on the "left" around here that always pop into a thread and ask for silence.
But honestly, is the left ever really open to honest debate of the issues? I can, and have admitted that my party has screwed us to some degree (Bush spending, Medicare Part D, etc). I never hear anybody on the left saying anything critical of Mr. Obama.
But then, even Mr. Obama isn't interested in debate. Afterall, it is he who often reminds Republicans that "I Won". Then he tells a group of large banks "Hey, my administration is the only thing between you and the PITCHFORKS".
The guy is a thug. He is now managing/threatening our financial industry with Mob Rule? And now that banks see the control he wishes to have over them, they are lining up to give the TARP money back, with interest, but he and Rahm are not having any of it.
Lord Help Us.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/20871.html
But honestly, is the left ever really open to honest debate of the issues? I can, and have admitted that my party has screwed us to some degree (Bush spending, Medicare Part D, etc). I never hear anybody on the left saying anything critical of Mr. Obama.
But then, even Mr. Obama isn't interested in debate. Afterall, it is he who often reminds Republicans that "I Won". Then he tells a group of large banks "Hey, my administration is the only thing between you and the PITCHFORKS".
The guy is a thug. He is now managing/threatening our financial industry with Mob Rule? And now that banks see the control he wishes to have over them, they are lining up to give the TARP money back, with interest, but he and Rahm are not having any of it.
Lord Help Us.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/20871.html
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