Petroglyphs vandalized

Pia · Post by **Pia** » Wed May 23, 2007 9:51 am

Sorry Anthony have to disagree with you in the need for signs - if children (or adults) are not raised in a way that they do not know that you don't spray paint, draw or put "graffiti" on any public building, wall, person's cars, homes etc what the he** are we raising our children top become?? but maybe I'm living in a perfect world.

Pia

MrB · Post by **MrB** » Wed May 23, 2007 9:56 am

I think Anthony's point was more to the other side of the coin, with general rules in the park. I don't think any responsible person needs to be told not to spraypaint an arceological monumnet. No sign will help that loser.

However, if you remember in the 'strange things seen' thread the story Mrs B told about matching baithing suits...all 4 times we saw them, they were walking around with what I called 'fistfuls of St John'....flowers....shells.....stones. These are the things that tourists need to be reminded of, and if that reminder comes in the form of a $500 fine...all the better!

mrsb · Post by **mrsb** » Wed May 23, 2007 10:13 am

I think maybe a sign could be used there. We were on the tour and it was "ok" to splash water on the glyphs to get a better pic and no one said anything about not touching them (even though it should be common sense because eventually with touching and water etc it aids erosion) I felt that maybe the park office feels a little helpless since this is a location that cannot be monitored every minute. Sad.

Post by **Anthony** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:31 am

Pia wrote:Sorry Anthony have to disagree with you in the need for signs - if children (or adults) are not raised in a way that they do not know that you don't spray paint, draw or put "graffiti" on any public building, wall, person's cars, homes etc what the he** are we raising our children top become?? but maybe I'm living in a perfect world.

Pia

I agree with you PIA - I was talking more just about the park rules like taking shells, building fires, water skiing, etc, that no one "seems" to know.

savvy · Post by **savvy** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:33 am

The park rangers themselves splash water on the petroglyphs so that people can take better photos. On the park service sponsored hike we did in February there were parents whose children were climbing on the rocks at the site, throwing rocks, and being nuisances by standing so that they were in everyone else's photos. The parents were right there watching. No signs can improve parenting skills, but signs might be useful to assist in prosecution. Without them, socially inept visitors can simply say "well, we didn't know that...."

Jerseyboy · Post by **Jerseyboy** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:01 pm

I wonder if those idiots thought the Petroglyphs was graffiti and they were just adding to it.

Suds · Post by **Suds** » Thu May 24, 2007 9:56 am

A book titled [Death in Yellowstone] details specifically with signage. Their determination was that regardless of the number of signs (which themselves detract from the natural ambiance)some people will not heed warnings or obey rules.

A hidden CCTV camera could easily cover the site.

I really hate graffiti. Its appearance is a sure sign of decline. Don't get me started.

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chicagoans · Post by **chicagoans** » Thu May 24, 2007 10:09 am

I agree that signs are not the answer. It's education and even more so, respect -- (respect for nature, for other people's property, etc etc) -- and it starts when a person is very young.

Jerseyboy · Post by **Jerseyboy** » Thu May 24, 2007 10:34 am

chicagoans wrote:I agree that signs are not the answer. It's education and even more so, respect -- (respect for nature, for other people's property, etc etc) -- and it starts when a person is very young.

I agree. This morning I was driving behind a guy who threw a small piece of paper out of his car window. It just pisses me off when people do that. It reminds me of the 1970's anti-pollution commerical with the tearing Native American.

chicagoans · Post by **chicagoans** » Thu May 24, 2007 2:21 pm

Jerseyboy - that Indian commercial always made me cry!

I was watching something with my kids recently, and a commercial came on where a young couple ran through the rain to a bus stop. As soon as they got inside, the girl dropped the newspaper she had been holding over her head. That stuff makes me nuts! I pointed it out to the kids as an example of someone being lazy and littering, and the ad-makers being irresponsible. Wish I could remember what it was for... I'd tell you not to buy any.

OK -- I got alittle Off Topic, but you can see how this laziness/sloppiness/carelessness can be pervasive.

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Petroglyphs vandalized