Grande Bay, ongoing

Pete (Mr. Marcia) · Post by **Pete (Mr. Marcia)** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:16 pm

duh, it covers a bare floor

Exit Zero · Post by **Exit Zero** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:24 pm

All Virgin Islanders and any people who have spent a bit of time learning about the culture here know what a rugadoo is -
" Doan Hang your hat so high you han can' reach" would be another good phrase to learn.

Exit Zero · Post by **Exit Zero** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:34 pm

Maybe read a book called:
'Cultural Adaptation & Resistance on St John' by Karen Fog Olwig
ISBN : 0-8130-0818-2
Or St John Life in Five Quarters --STJ Historical Society
OrSt John Backtime ISBN 0-961-4355
or St John People ISBN 0-9631060-5-8
orVirgin Islands Dictionary and Not so Cat Walk both by George Seaman
From the above book --- Rugadoo -- An Uproar
Maybe I should have called it a 'pascalam'

Pete (Mr. Marcia) · Post by **Pete (Mr. Marcia)** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:41 pm

Well, I'm an idiot...'cause I don't know what it means.

I do know the one about not killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.

The USVI tells us to come, but, then, there are those, like you, who tell us to go away.

Which is it? Do you want our $$$$ or not?

Exit Zero · Post by **Exit Zero** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:02 am

I have said nothing negative to your club or recently about the STJ Condos and never said do not visit - you will have to excuse me now I have a goose to baste.

Tracy in WI · Post by **Tracy in WI** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:19 am

Instead of continuing the argument about Grande Bay - I hope you will all read Susan's trip report (which is very good!) and then go to the Wounded Warrior's site and donate some money to help those men and women have a memorable trip to the place we all love.

It is quite clear that we are not all going to agree on this topic. But I hope that those of you in disagreement with Grande Bay will respect any future posts by me and others that may own there and choose to stay there while on island. I have enjoyed this forum for many years and hope to continue to do so.

Thanks.

Pete (Mr. Marcia) · Post by **Pete (Mr. Marcia)** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:57 am

Tracy, out of respect for you, I will stand down.

JT · Post by JT » Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:40 am

Rugadoo? After Exit Zero's explanation of what it was,"an uproar", I felt better. What a great colloquialism! And here I thought that he had called Pete a name.
Tracy, I hope that you and your family enjoy your purchase for many years to come. I'm sorry for upsetting you, and other members of the forum, for thoughtlessly posting my picture,and memory, of the first that I had seen of Grande Bay. My bad! Please don't throw me out of the club!
Pete, Exit Zero in my opinion, has been a huge educator to this board regarding the infrastructure of the island and is justifiably upset by the rapid Key West-ing of STJ. That said, every time that I come down there,rent a jeep, rent a villa,etc. I not only contribute to the local economy, but I also contribute to the decay of the infrastructure and the culture of STJ. Pete, you and Marcia have been coming down for a lot longer then I have, and I have also seen your posts expressing your indignation of the mega-mansions on Peter Bay. We all seem to detest many of the changes, yet we're all the problem. I just wish there was a solution. Alas, we're all loving the island to death.

grandpainin · Post by **grandpainin** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:29 am

Get over it.

longtimer · Post by **longtimer** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:58 pm

I don't believe the Bay Isle/Grand Bay issue will die in the near future. The arguments have no reflection on the condo owners since they should have been informed of all the violations prior to closing. The issue here is, the community is sick and tired of the lack of government over sight on development and Grand Bay and Bay Isles is a good place to start. Concerned individuals over unlawful development are are also entitled to get what they want and they want answers.

1. I believe the entire building is effected by the license issue. See the definition of hotel in Title 29, chapter 3.
2. Recently, building code violations were discovered and will be soon brought the the attention of DPNR. All the stairs in the stair wells are of varying heights.
3. All buildings in the VI must adhere to the National Fire Prevention Association standards. There are at least a couple of fire code violations that exist in the buildings of Grand Bay.

These issues won't die until the government or courts give the concerned individuals the answers they deserve.

longtimer · Post by **longtimer** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:09 am

Mr. Mathes was contacted yesterday regarding Grand Bay's building code violations and possible fire code violations. Obviously, given that they are safety issues concerning all the occupants of the buildings, DPNR will investigate the situation and the issuance of the CO's. The concerned citizens of unlawful development on St. John are going to stay on top of this matter and inform the public as more information develops.

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