Congratulations to our president!

P-600 · Post by **P-600** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:36 pm

This is solid stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02Dt ... re=related

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S47sO1TCVmE

HAHAHA!

XOXO · Post by **XOXO** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:08 am

LysaC wrote:Seriously? We can't disagree now?

If you don't want to read political opinions, don't click on very obviously political threads.

FYI- this thread was not "highjacked" by Dave. He only disagreed.

The absurdity is immense and disturbing.

I agree. The tone of the thread started after the post. The tone seems to be only post if you agree.

Wow.

XOXO · Post by **XOXO** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:31 am

sherban wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E

talk about a solid candidate...come on, WTF should I have voted for?

Come on, really??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5MDX87tj5A

DaveS007 · Post by **DaveS007** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:33 am

JT wrote:I gotta tell you. I'm not a Democrat. I'm not a Republican.I'm not a conservative. I'm not a liberal. Ask my friends. Ask my wife. Ask me. I am an American.I am an American patriot.I follow no doctrine. No one side has a lock on patriotism, religion,or morality. I posted a week ago about how important this board is to me and how the ugliness has worn me down.I posted this thread,even knowing it would start a train wreck, because I understood what the Nobel Peace prize was about, and because I was proud that Barrack Obama, our elected president, was the recipient of it. Has he yet done anything as our president to deserve it? Probably not, except to offer to try to make the world a better place.[ Did Henry Kissinger and Le Doc deserve it after nine months of bickering over what shape the freakin' peace table was going to be for the peace talks in 1973? Probably not, but they were trying].
Anyway, if I have ever been personally insulting, mean, or otherwise disrespectful to any individual on this board, I offer my sincere apologies. I'm taking a break for a while. You all behave yourselves. I've got pumpkins that need to be shot. Later, JT

BTW, many have quoted somebody else in trying to articulate what they were trying to say. Let me do the same one time.
Humour me. Watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMJuEOaF84o

OK - bye.

sherban · Post by **sherban** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:31 am

I have a question to all those folks who have been bitching since Obama was elected...what action do you suggest now? The election is over and we have a new leader...now what do you suggest besides continual bitching and moaning?

Is it just that ya'll love the sport of bitching or is there a productive suggestion or reccomendation here somewhere.

Sometimes at work we get a manager that isn't the one we had hoped for but we get over it, we get on board and we work towards success with the new person...right?

That's my plan as an American citizen as well, regardless of who is elected my flag is still flying and I'm still trying to figure out how to make this the greatest place in the world. I am setting an example for my children every day. I try to teach them to stay productive and keep moving forward, by example.

This isn't like rooting for a baseball team where the objective is continual disagreement on who is best... is it? There is only one USA and there ain't no world series guys...we all win or loose. I don't see people who voted for a different candidate as my rivalry, I see them as my neighbor with a different opinion but we are both American...by default on the same team (team USA)....get it?

Reagan, Clinton, Carter, Bush, who-ever...it is my country and I want it to be great. I think some people just like to bitch...not me.
I am behind our leader...still.

I got sucked in....ahhhh.

cypressgirl · Post by **cypressgirl** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:44 am

I have a few suggestions.....cut taxes and let people create jobs, send the troops to Afganistan that he promised, quit hiring czars and creating new government agencies that just cost us more $$$$ and accomplish nothing.

Was that OK? Suggestions and no bitching? Of course you don't like my suggestions, but so be it.

XOXO · Post by **XOXO** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:33 pm

Probably true--no one complained when Bush was President so it stands to reason that no one should complain now that Obama is President.

That sounds logical, doesn't it?

hawksnestbay · Post by **hawksnestbay** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:36 pm

Our Tea got dumped in the Harbor over the same principles, only the Government Body doing the oppressing was Great Britains not our own.

Just because one bad manager is of a different party than the other, it does not make either one right.

Massachusetts has had a Libertarian Candidate whose slogan is "small Government is beautiful". I agree.

To see why click here. A highlight is a $998,000 shipping charge paid by the military to ship 2 nineteen cent washers to Texas. Absurd, but not unusual.

Eveything is fine. Drink your tea.

Look both ways before you cross the tracks.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/wm2642.cfm

Pete (Mr. Marcia) · Post by **Pete (Mr. Marcia)** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:46 am

Our President won the Nobel Peace Prize.

If this is divisive, you better ask yourselves what it means to be an American. I am proud of him. I am proud that an American President won this award. I am proud that he is trying to make a difference and that his efforts were recognized.

If you are not proud of our President, go ahead and disrespect him. Go ahead. Disrespect our President.

DaveS007 · Post by **DaveS007** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:05 am

Isn't being lumped in with Carter and Gore, as the other two US presidents to win the stupid prize, enough disrespect?

sailorgirl · Post by **sailorgirl** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:38 am

DaveS007 wrote:Isn't being lumped in with Carter and Gore, as the other two US presidents to win the stupid prize, enough disrespect?

"Stupid Prize"...

A list of all Nobel Prize winners: I dare say most of us can only identify a relatively few names... more's the pity... as these are people who have toiled, often in obscurity in an attempt to make a difference in the world... Maybe we should all ask ourselves... What have I done lately.

Take some time to learn about these people...there are some inspiring and amazing stories. Stupid Prize... I think not.

2009 - Barack Obama
2008 - Martti Ahtisaari
2007 - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Al Gore
2006 - Muhammad Yunus, Grameen Bank
2005 - International Atomic Energy Agency, Mohamed ElBaradei
2004 - Wangari Maathai
2003 - Shirin Ebadi
2002 - Jimmy Carter
2001 - United Nations, Kofi Annan
2000 - Kim Dae-jung
1999 - Médecins Sans Frontières
1998 - John Hume, David Trimble
1997 - International Campaign to Ban Landmines, Jody Williams
1996 - Carlos Filipe Ximenes Belo, José Ramos-Horta
1995 - Joseph Rotblat, Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs
1994 - Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin
1993 - Nelson Mandela, F.W. de Klerk
1992 - Rigoberta Menchú Tum
1991 - Aung San Suu Kyi
1990 - Mikhail Gorbachev
1989 - The 14th Dalai Lama
1988 - United Nations Peacekeeping Forces
1987 - Oscar Arias Sánchez
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1985 - International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War
1984 - Desmond Tutu
1983 - Lech Walesa
1982 - Alva Myrdal, Alfonso García Robles
1981 - Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees
1980 - Adolfo Pérez Esquivel
1979 - Mother Teresa
1978 - Anwar al-Sadat, Menachem Begin
1977 - Amnesty International
1976 - Betty Williams, Mairead Corrigan
1975 - Andrei Sakharov
1974 - Seán MacBride, Eisaku Sato
1973 - Henry Kissinger, Le Duc Tho
1972 - The prize money for 1972 was allocated to the Main Fund
1971 - Willy Brandt
1970 - Norman Borlaug
1969 - International Labour Organization
1968 - René Cassin
1967 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1966 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1965 - United Nations Children's Fund
1964 - Martin Luther King Jr.
1963 - International Committee of the Red Cross, League of Red Cross Societies
1962 - Linus Pauling
1961 - Dag Hammarskjöld
1960 - Albert Lutuli
1959 - Philip Noel-Baker
1958 - Georges Pire
1957 - Lester Bowles Pearson
1956 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1955 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1954 - Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees
1953 - George C. Marshall
1952 - Albert Schweitzer
1951 - Léon Jouhaux
1950 - Ralph Bunche
1949 - Lord Boyd Orr
1948 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1947 - Friends Service Council, American Friends Service Committee
1946 - Emily Greene Balch, John R. Mott
1945 - Cordell Hull
1944 - International Committee of the Red Cross
1943 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1942 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1941 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1940 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1939 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1938 - Nansen International Office for Refugees
1937 - Robert Cecil
1936 - Carlos Saavedra Lamas
1935 - Carl von Ossietzky
1934 - Arthur Henderson
1933 - Sir Norman Angell
1932 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1931 - Jane Addams, Nicholas Murray Butler
1930 - Nathan Söderblom
1929 - Frank B. Kellogg
1928 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1927 - Ferdinand Buisson, Ludwig Quidde
1926 - Aristide Briand, Gustav Stresemann
1925 - Sir Austen Chamberlain, Charles G. Dawes
1924 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1923 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1922 - Fridtjof Nansen
1921 - Hjalmar Branting, Christian Lange
1920 - Léon Bourgeois
1919 - Woodrow Wilson
1918 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1917 - International Committee of the Red Cross
1916 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1915 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1914 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1913 - Henri La Fontaine
1912 - Elihu Root
1911 - Tobias Asser, Alfred Fried
1910 - Permanent International Peace Bureau
1909 - Auguste Beernaert, Paul Henri d'Estournelles de Constant
1908 - Klas Pontus Arnoldson, Fredrik Bajer
1907 - Ernesto Teodoro Moneta, Louis Renault
1906 - Theodore Roosevelt
1905 - Bertha von Suttner
1904 - Institute of International Law
1903 - Randal Cremer
1902 - Élie Ducommun, Albert Gobat
1901 - Henry Dunant, Frédéric Passy

cypressgirl · Post by **cypressgirl** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:07 am

I disrespect this president. As many of you felt the same way about President Bush, I'm sure you understand my feelings totally. There was plenty of Bush slamming for years, so don't even go there.

Sailor girl, with all due respect, I'm not about to sit down and research all those names, nor do I care to. The fact that they would give this guy such an award after accomnplishing nothing, means it's meaningless in 2009. It might have been special years ago, but it's just political BS by a bunch of Europeans at this point.

But this silly prize is not what's important. Our economy, our saftey, our freedom from dictators and terrorists, are at the top of my list. This guy wants to play nice with the Taliban and tax us into economic recovery. No respect from me!!

cypressgirl · Post by **cypressgirl** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:24 am

One last point.........the first thing he does after picking up his little prize is not to send the troops to Afganistan he promised, he finds it more important to end don't ask don't tell. What a Commander in Chief he is indeed. And don't get me started on that czar he appointed that was part of NAMBLA (that disgusting man/boy sexual abuse club). I'm about to vomit, so I better go.

DaveS007 · Post by **DaveS007** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:24 am

sailorgirl wrote:
DaveS007 wrote:Isn't being lumped in with Carter and Gore, as the other two US presidents to win the stupid prize, enough disrespect?
"Stupid Prize"...

A list of all Nobel Prize winners: I dare say most of us can only identify a relatively few names... more's the pity... as these are people who have toiled, often in obscurity in an attempt to make a difference in the world... Maybe we should all ask ourselves... What have I done lately.

Take some time to learn about these people...there are some inspiring and amazing stories. Stupid Prize... I think not.

2009 - Barack Obama
2008 - Martti Ahtisaari
2007 - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Al Gore
2006 - Muhammad Yunus, Grameen Bank
2005 - International Atomic Energy Agency, Mohamed ElBaradei
2004 - Wangari Maathai
2003 - Shirin Ebadi
2002 - Jimmy Carter
2001 - United Nations, Kofi Annan
2000 - Kim Dae-jung
1999 - Médecins Sans Frontières
1998 - John Hume, David Trimble
1997 - International Campaign to Ban Landmines, Jody Williams
1996 - Carlos Filipe Ximenes Belo, José Ramos-Horta
1995 - Joseph Rotblat, Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs
1994 - Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin
1993 - Nelson Mandela, F.W. de Klerk
1992 - Rigoberta Menchú Tum
1991 - Aung San Suu Kyi
1990 - Mikhail Gorbachev
1989 - The 14th Dalai Lama
1988 - United Nations Peacekeeping Forces
1987 - Oscar Arias Sánchez
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1985 - International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War
1984 - Desmond Tutu
1983 - Lech Walesa
1982 - Alva Myrdal, Alfonso García Robles
1981 - Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees
1980 - Adolfo Pérez Esquivel
1979 - Mother Teresa
1978 - Anwar al-Sadat, Menachem Begin
1977 - Amnesty International
1976 - Betty Williams, Mairead Corrigan
1975 - Andrei Sakharov
1974 - Seán MacBride, Eisaku Sato
1973 - Henry Kissinger, Le Duc Tho
1972 - The prize money for 1972 was allocated to the Main Fund
1971 - Willy Brandt
1970 - Norman Borlaug
1969 - International Labour Organization
1968 - René Cassin
1967 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1966 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1965 - United Nations Children's Fund
1964 - Martin Luther King Jr.
1963 - International Committee of the Red Cross, League of Red Cross Societies
1962 - Linus Pauling
1961 - Dag Hammarskjöld
1960 - Albert Lutuli
1959 - Philip Noel-Baker
1958 - Georges Pire
1957 - Lester Bowles Pearson
1956 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1955 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1954 - Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees
1953 - George C. Marshall
1952 - Albert Schweitzer
1951 - Léon Jouhaux
1950 - Ralph Bunche
1949 - Lord Boyd Orr
1948 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1947 - Friends Service Council, American Friends Service Committee
1946 - Emily Greene Balch, John R. Mott
1945 - Cordell Hull
1944 - International Committee of the Red Cross
1943 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1942 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1941 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1940 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1939 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1938 - Nansen International Office for Refugees
1937 - Robert Cecil
1936 - Carlos Saavedra Lamas
1935 - Carl von Ossietzky
1934 - Arthur Henderson
1933 - Sir Norman Angell
1932 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1931 - Jane Addams, Nicholas Murray Butler
1930 - Nathan Söderblom
1929 - Frank B. Kellogg
1928 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1927 - Ferdinand Buisson, Ludwig Quidde
1926 - Aristide Briand, Gustav Stresemann
1925 - Sir Austen Chamberlain, Charles G. Dawes
1924 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1923 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1922 - Fridtjof Nansen
1921 - Hjalmar Branting, Christian Lange
1920 - Léon Bourgeois
1919 - Woodrow Wilson
1918 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1917 - International Committee of the Red Cross
1916 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1915 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1914 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1913 - Henri La Fontaine
1912 - Elihu Root
1911 - Tobias Asser, Alfred Fried
1910 - Permanent International Peace Bureau
1909 - Auguste Beernaert, Paul Henri d'Estournelles de Constant
1908 - Klas Pontus Arnoldson, Fredrik Bajer
1907 - Ernesto Teodoro Moneta, Louis Renault
1906 - Theodore Roosevelt
1905 - Bertha von Suttner
1904 - Institute of International Law
1903 - Randal Cremer
1902 - Élie Ducommun, Albert Gobat
1901 - Henry Dunant, Frédéric Passy

In 2009 it is a stupid prize, given for a stupid reason. Which was ?

soxfan22 · Post by **soxfan22** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:23 am

I will take on a few...And I have always wondered, why is Ronald Reagan's name not on this list. If ending the Cold War in its tracks isn't the definition of promoting peace, then I have monkeys flying out of MY a$$.

On to the "list":

2009 - Barack Obama - Communist/Marxist/Anti-Capitalist/not a "president", rather a "celebrident", friend of terrorists both domestic and foreign...seems like a perfect fit afterall

2007 - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Al Gore - The baseball game in Denver was snowed out two days ago. Temperatures around the world have actually fallen over the past decade...The ice sheet in Greenland is thicker now than it was in recent years...The founder of the Weather Channel has called this the biggest lie ever propagated on the American People...I call BS on this. Just another way to collect taxes and control lives in the name of "the environment".

2004 - Wangari Maathai - ahh yes...The Kenyan woman who once said that AIDS was "deliberately created by Western scientists to decimate the African population."

2003 - Shirin Ebadi - This Iranian Lawyer has been openly hotile towards the West (seems to be a prerequisite for being awarded this "prize")...And said this about Iran's Nuke program, "Aside from being economically justified, it has become a cause of national pride for an old nation with a glorious history. No Iranian government, regardless of its ideology or democratic credentials, would dare to stop the program."

2002 - Jimmy Carter - Racist/Segregationist/worst US president of all time...Brought our economy to its knees...Has been more damaging since he left office.

2001 - United Nations, Kofi Annan - Ummmmm...Oil for Food, anybody?

1999 - Médecins Sans Frontières - Doctors without borders...Who can complain here? Nice selection.

1994 - Yasser Arafat - Terrorist.

1990 - Mikhail Gorbachev - Again, if you give it to him, should not Reagan have been awarded with him?

1989 - The 14th Dalai Lama - who doesn't love The Dalai Lama?

1988 - United Nations Peacekeeping Forces - Because they have done such an exemplary job of keeping peace. And again, monkeys are flying from the anal region.

1984 - Desmond Tutu - Obviously a very accomplished man...BUT...He did compare the Israeli/Palastinian conflict to apartheid in South Africa. He has not been a friend of Israel (which again seems to be par for the course for winners of this "prize").

1979 - Mother Teresa. Yes.

1978 - Anwar al-Sadat - I love this guy...If only for this quote..."Russians can give you arms but only the United States can give you a solution.". Think our president would ever say something like this?

1977 - Amnesty International...Oh, the year I was born...I think they should have given it to me based on what I had planned to do with my life.

1975 - Andrei Sakharov - Wow! This guy said this..."I foresee a universal information system (UIS), which will give everyone access at any given moment to the contents of any book that has ever been published or any magazine or any fact. The UIS will have individual miniature-computer terminals, central control points for the flood of information, and communication channels incorporating thousands of artificial communications from satellites, cables, and laser lines. Even the partial realization of the UIS will profoundly affect every person, his leisure activities, and his intellectual and artistic development. ...But the true historic role of the UIS will be to break down the barriers to the exchange of information among countries and people." (Saturday Review/World, August 24, 1974)[20]

Huh...And I always thought Al Gore invented the Internet.

1972 - The prize money for 1972 was allocated to the Main Fund - Must not have been enough bashing of the West, Israel, and Capitalism to have given out an award this year...

1964 - Martin Luther King Jr. - Well, at least they have one registered Republican on the list.

1953 - George C. Marshall

1919 - Woodrow Wilson - a known racist.

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