RickG's group travel rules for St. John
RickG's group travel rules for St. John
Reposted by popular demand.
1. Don't invite anyone who is a whiner. Don't invite anyone that you would not spend a week with 1-on-1.
2. I pick the villa and the week and people get to decide if they want to come. It's okay if no one wants to come with me.
3. You get to pick your room in the order that you pay. I've already paid the deposit, so I go first. This deals with the equal rooms problem and #1 deals with whiners.
4. One vehicle per 2 couples with at least one person from each couple on the contract for each car. Expect there to be an early group and a late group each morning. This is not a problem. I get my own vehicle. I'm in the early group and my lover is in the late group.
5. Pick a beach each day that you want to visit; 11AM is a good rendezvous time. The late group can usually make it and the early group will have done a hike and another beach already. It's okay if no one meets me at the beach.
6. Do some happy hours at the villa. It's cheap and 6-8 people is a party. Bring Twister.
7. Dinner out for 6-8 is a pain in the a$$. Do some dinners at the villa and do some date nights. Meet for drinks before and after dinner. There's always room at the Beach Bar, Quiet Mon and Larry's Landing for 6-8.
8. Expect to spend a day without leaving the villa. Make sure that there is not a mid-week maid visit scheduled that day. Start the blender at 10AM, but put sunscreen on all exposed skin first.
9. Put $100 per person in a food/drink kitty for villa provisions. If someone is concerned that they won't spend that much and want differential treatment, that breaks rule #1 - they don't get to come. $800 will cover food and booze at the villa for 8 adults for a week. Dinner for 8 at Zozo's is $680.
Lessons learned:
- If someone whines at home, they will whine more on STJ.
- If someone pitches in at home they will pitch in more on STJ.
- 10 people feels much bigger than 8 people - 60% bigger - c=(n^2-n)/2
- The herd moves at the speed of the slowest beast.
- Don't be afraid to say "I'm heading out. I'll be back for sunset."
- Newbies will assume the villa is on the beach, even if you tell them otherwise and show them pictures. If they can't get over this, they stay at the Westin.
- #1 takes care of almost every possible problem.
Cheers, RickG
1. Don't invite anyone who is a whiner. Don't invite anyone that you would not spend a week with 1-on-1.
2. I pick the villa and the week and people get to decide if they want to come. It's okay if no one wants to come with me.
3. You get to pick your room in the order that you pay. I've already paid the deposit, so I go first. This deals with the equal rooms problem and #1 deals with whiners.
4. One vehicle per 2 couples with at least one person from each couple on the contract for each car. Expect there to be an early group and a late group each morning. This is not a problem. I get my own vehicle. I'm in the early group and my lover is in the late group.
5. Pick a beach each day that you want to visit; 11AM is a good rendezvous time. The late group can usually make it and the early group will have done a hike and another beach already. It's okay if no one meets me at the beach.
6. Do some happy hours at the villa. It's cheap and 6-8 people is a party. Bring Twister.
7. Dinner out for 6-8 is a pain in the a$$. Do some dinners at the villa and do some date nights. Meet for drinks before and after dinner. There's always room at the Beach Bar, Quiet Mon and Larry's Landing for 6-8.
8. Expect to spend a day without leaving the villa. Make sure that there is not a mid-week maid visit scheduled that day. Start the blender at 10AM, but put sunscreen on all exposed skin first.
9. Put $100 per person in a food/drink kitty for villa provisions. If someone is concerned that they won't spend that much and want differential treatment, that breaks rule #1 - they don't get to come. $800 will cover food and booze at the villa for 8 adults for a week. Dinner for 8 at Zozo's is $680.
Lessons learned:
- If someone whines at home, they will whine more on STJ.
- If someone pitches in at home they will pitch in more on STJ.
- 10 people feels much bigger than 8 people - 60% bigger - c=(n^2-n)/2
- The herd moves at the speed of the slowest beast.
- Don't be afraid to say "I'm heading out. I'll be back for sunset."
- Newbies will assume the villa is on the beach, even if you tell them otherwise and show them pictures. If they can't get over this, they stay at the Westin.
- #1 takes care of almost every possible problem.
Cheers, RickG
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Good stuff Rick!
We have done several vacations with other families (usually 10 - 12 people including kids. Lucky for us no whiners in the bunch!)
If I may be so bold as to add a couple family-related rules...
- Don't be afraid to tell someone else's kid to... get his own breakfast/put his dishes away/pick up his stuff/put on sunscreen/say please...etc.
- Welcome it when another adult tells your kid to ... (list as above)
Everyone watches out for each other's kids, and the kids know that they have extra parents for the trip. Traveling with a group can be so great! And Rick's #1 rule is a really good one.
We have done several vacations with other families (usually 10 - 12 people including kids. Lucky for us no whiners in the bunch!)
If I may be so bold as to add a couple family-related rules...
- Don't be afraid to tell someone else's kid to... get his own breakfast/put his dishes away/pick up his stuff/put on sunscreen/say please...etc.
- Welcome it when another adult tells your kid to ... (list as above)
Everyone watches out for each other's kids, and the kids know that they have extra parents for the trip. Traveling with a group can be so great! And Rick's #1 rule is a really good one.
