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loria · Post by **loria** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:39 pm

well, if you have to put a plane down in water there is no better place than next to the intrepid! what a great job on behalf of the pilots and an awesome response from Nycity--makes me proud to be here--
i was on the east side when this went down, so didn't witness it, but i immediately thought of 9/11 -when i did witness the second plane crash --(and i still work on 9/11 related programs) those both came right down the hudson--couldn't help but wonder if something else was up. thank god it wasn't.

loria · Post by **loria** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:06 pm

loria wrote:well, if you have to put a plane down in water there is no better place than next to the intrepid! what a great job on behalf of the pilots and an awesome response from Nycity--makes me proud to be here--
i was on the east side when this went down, so didn't witness it, but i immediately thought of 9/11 -when i did witness the second plane crash --(and i still work on 9/11 related programs) those both came right down the hudson--couldn't help but wonder if something else was up. thank god it wasn't.

i have been corrected
sj from NJ states that the first plane hit differently (or perhaps i am misquoting him?) however, from my vantage point they were both pretty squarely in the area of the hudson, seeing s the WTC is basically at the mouth of the hudson--
so my apologies for my inaccuracies. in actuality a friend who witnessed number one saw it going down the hudson if i recall correctly--(and she was three blocks from there at the time) though she may have been referring to number two--in any event, i didn't think it mattered so much, but since SJfrom NJ felt it necessary to PM me i thought i should make the correction for all to see

jimg20 · Post by **jimg20** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:58 pm

pipanale wrote:Also...I always take off my shoes when I get on a plane. I put them on when we're on final approach, figuring that the plane's more likely to go down on landing and I should have shoes in case of anything. Maybe I'll keep mine on tomorrow afternoon when we take off.

I never take off my shoes on a flight, and I flew well over 200 segments last year. I want to be able to safely run through the broken glass and jagged metal. I also "request" that the shades around me be opened during take-offs and landings. I want to be able to see out and I want them to be able to see into the plane if anything bad happens. I don't fly in shorts, flip-flops (sorry FF), or sandels. I ask for the exit row whenever possible.

So far, knock on wood (I am knocking on the side of my head), I have not seen anything like this event. We landed once with a landing gear warning light on, but it turned out to be a warning light failure - not the landing gear.

Today, the flight crew was outstanding. The passengers were outstanding. The civilian rescuers were outstanding. The multi-state professional response was well above outstanding. I think we saw the results of what was learned from the 9/11 response.

JIM

jimg20 · Post by **jimg20** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:06 pm

Loria, what I recall was that the first one came south down the Hudson and hit the north tower. The second one came in over Ellis Island and the Statue of Liberty and hit the south tower. This one was, for the end of his flight, on the same path but at a considerably lower altitude.

JIM

pipanale · Post by **pipanale** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:42 pm

Regarding shoes...yea...I hear you. I didn't fly nearly that much, probably closer to 50-60 segments, but I still take off my shoes. I have convinced myself that I can slip back into my shoes in mere seconds (as I do at security).

I'm usually either asleep or in a daze anyway. I'd be useless in an emergency. They'd have to wake me up to get me off the plane. I've slept through takeoffs and landings before.

Though...and this may be silly, I always call home once I board the plane to check in. No matter what's going on, that conversation ALWAYS ends with "I love you"

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Lovermont · Post by **Lovermont** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:00 pm

pipanale wrote:that conversation ALWAYS ends with "I love you"

I actually started to cry when the news broadcast stated that women and children were ushered off first. The thought of leaving my husband in that situation with all the uncertainty is so frightening. Man... am I glad that everyone is OK. What a miracle!

mbw1024 · Post by **mbw1024** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:03 pm

very emotional watching this unfold. I have a splitting headache! one of the things that struck me was that some people walked off the ferries under their own accord. Me? My legs were like rubber watching it. I surely would have fallen right to the ground.

California Girl · Post by **California Girl** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:36 pm

I surely would have to change my pants.

pipanale · Post by **pipanale** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:16 am

The Charlotte-based people flew home last night! Holy crap! I can take just about any airline-related inconvenience, but I'm not so sure I'd have gotten on a plane a few hours after that.

Me? I'm calling my corporate offices and telling them to gas up N1090X to bring my ass home.

mbw1024 · Post by **mbw1024** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:20 am

I really couldn't believe those people started all over again after that.

waterguy · Post by **waterguy** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:48 am

I was once on the next plane in line to take off from dtw when the one in front crashed they shut down the airport for 12 hrs I was realy hard to get back on that plane to go home.

PA Girl · Post by **PA Girl** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:49 am

Lovermont wrote:
pipanale wrote:that conversation ALWAYS ends with "I love you"
I actually started to cry when the news broadcast stated that women and children were ushered off first. The thought of leaving my husband in that situation with all the uncertainty is so frightening. Man... am I glad that everyone is OK. What a miracle!

Lovermont - I also cried (while in the car) when I heard that.

Someone had an infant aboard.

We have a three-year old and half of my brain thinks "there is no way I could leave my husband behind, we would stick together"

The other part thinks "I would have to do whatever possible to save my son, even if it required leaving his father behind."

Gromit · Post by **Gromit** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:04 am

On a lighter note... (a little levity never hurts) and now that we know everyone is OK...

how sad is it that we all know the flight schedules to STT so well that we knew that no one (likely) from the forum would have been on that flight? Go forum!!

Seriously... I'm just so relieved that all passengers and crew were rescued. The crew acted heroically (and I don't just bandy that term about). I heard the captain actually walked the aisle TWICE to ensure that EVERYONE was of before getting off himself and one of the pilots LITERALLY gave the shirt off his back to apassenger who was forced to jump from the plane into the water because he was first off at the front.

Wonder when they're going to schedule the funeral for the Canadian geese??

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