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As it seems this season for the Bears is all but lost. I just hope that we can beat the pack in a couple weeks when they visit Chi-town. At least the season will be half of a success.Pete (Mr. Marcia) wrote:Being a Bears fan exiled in Wisconsin, I have had more than my fill of Brett Favre mania. I am so glad that he is gone.
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Pete (Mr. Marcia)
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You folks crack me up...this link went from set backs in their upright position to football.
Love it!
I personally do not put my seat back in any other position that upright in respect for the person behind me.
So, maybe as a pay-it-forward type of thing anyone behind that type of person should be offered a cocktail. Just a thought.
Love it!
I personally do not put my seat back in any other position that upright in respect for the person behind me.
So, maybe as a pay-it-forward type of thing anyone behind that type of person should be offered a cocktail. Just a thought.
All your polite people, who don’t recline your seat, have made me thinking. Is it always the one, who recline, who is the rude person? Or could it be the one, who claim, that you don’t recline your seat and perhaps prevent it, because he (or she) wants to work on the computer or to have drinks on the table during the whole trip?
When I read the story with the woman with the bad knee I of course found that the man, who wouldn’t put his seat up, was the rude one. But afterwards I was thinking that the woman must have known the risk. If it was me, who have had a knee surgery, I would have tried to be placed in one of the front seats, or perhaps to have my husband placed in the seat in front of me.
I don’t like to fly. Not because I’m afraid, but I feel confined in a plane. Also I feel uncomfortable sitting upright in a seat. If it’s for too long, I get pain in my back. So I try to relax or sleep in a reclined seat. Of course not during take of and on, or when a meal is served, but now and again. I don’t ask people behind me, if I’m allowed to do it, I feel it’s a part of the arrangement that you can do it, but I look back to see, if they have finished their meal. On our way home from Spain this year, I was asked to put my seat up, because a person still was drinking coffee, which I haven’t noticed. I did it of course, but after a while I slowly took it back again.
Like others, I have experienced children, who constantly kick me in the back, and children who is crawling over me, when I try to sleep, screaming children, fat people, who take a part of my space etc.. Normally I never say anything about it, I try to be tolerant. So please be tolerant to me if you are sitting behind me in a plane
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Linne
When I read the story with the woman with the bad knee I of course found that the man, who wouldn’t put his seat up, was the rude one. But afterwards I was thinking that the woman must have known the risk. If it was me, who have had a knee surgery, I would have tried to be placed in one of the front seats, or perhaps to have my husband placed in the seat in front of me.
I don’t like to fly. Not because I’m afraid, but I feel confined in a plane. Also I feel uncomfortable sitting upright in a seat. If it’s for too long, I get pain in my back. So I try to relax or sleep in a reclined seat. Of course not during take of and on, or when a meal is served, but now and again. I don’t ask people behind me, if I’m allowed to do it, I feel it’s a part of the arrangement that you can do it, but I look back to see, if they have finished their meal. On our way home from Spain this year, I was asked to put my seat up, because a person still was drinking coffee, which I haven’t noticed. I did it of course, but after a while I slowly took it back again.
Like others, I have experienced children, who constantly kick me in the back, and children who is crawling over me, when I try to sleep, screaming children, fat people, who take a part of my space etc.. Normally I never say anything about it, I try to be tolerant. So please be tolerant to me if you are sitting behind me in a plane
.Linne
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Pete (Mr. Marcia)
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Jorge!
I have to ask again. Whom have decided that it's the one, who recline the seat and try to relax/sleep, who is the rude one, and the one, who wants to work with the lap -and perhaps as in your case enjoy to "get the point across", has the right to do it?
Perhaps it's a question of different mentalities in USA and Europe, I don’t know. It’s common that people recline their seats on the trips I have been on. But I can understand now that I can risk to be considered as a rude person, if I travel with Americans. That will be a new experience for me to be considered as rude
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Linne
I have to ask again. Whom have decided that it's the one, who recline the seat and try to relax/sleep, who is the rude one, and the one, who wants to work with the lap -and perhaps as in your case enjoy to "get the point across", has the right to do it?
Perhaps it's a question of different mentalities in USA and Europe, I don’t know. It’s common that people recline their seats on the trips I have been on. But I can understand now that I can risk to be considered as a rude person, if I travel with Americans. That will be a new experience for me to be considered as rude
.Linne
Yes, Waterguy. You are right. The seats are now closer and closer to each other and that's the problem. If one company can sell a cheap ticket because they can put more persons in their planes, the competition means that the other companies have to do the same.
That sounds good with a trip to Italy. So you are celebrating New Year in Italy?
Linne
That sounds good with a trip to Italy. So you are celebrating New Year in Italy?
Linne
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Linne, I don't think it's a difference between Europeans and Americans, I think it is just a difference between people. I fly a lot, and I do not think it is rude when someone in front of me reclines his or her seat. In fact, this subject was discussed here before (or perhaps it was the "other" forum) and I was surprised to see that some people considered seat reclining on planes to be rude. I have seen a lot of rude behaviors on planes, but this is not one of them in my opinion. Sitting in coach is fairly miserable, but I do not find that I am any worse off if the person in front of me is reclining.linne wrote:Perhaps it's a question of different mentalities in USA and Europe, I don’t know. It’s common that people recline their seats on the trips I have been on. But I can understand now that I can risk to be considered as a rude person, if I travel with Americans. That will be a new experience for me to be considered as rude
Linne
Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry.
- Mark Twain
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My 2 cents- just adding another side to this so we can all strive to be more considerate on a plane :
I recline. I don't consider myself rude for doing it.
I am upright during take off, landing, food time and when there is turbulence. I do a quick look back before I recline.
I am not a good flyer so do everything I can to (try, try, try
) to relax and hopefully (but rarely) sleep to get me throught the flight.
I would consider it rude if the person behind me didn't want to me to recline but, instead of communicating it to me in a civil manner, decided instead to kick the back of my seat or poke me or whatever
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We are all on the plane together so we have to be tolerant. It's a bus in the sky, it's not a limo in the sky. If you want to be extra comfy and get your way, then pay for first class.
I don't understand why I should not recline so that someone else can use their laptop. I think that also falls in the just cuz you can do it doesn't mean you should category. Using your laptop is for your benefit, reclining is for mine. The difference is, we can both recline because it is a feature of the seat on the plane. We don't both have laptops though, so I have to give up my feature so you can have yours? That's doen't make sense to me.
I can understand not reclining cuz someone still has food/drinks on their tray table. I would apologize immensley if I caused someone to spill food/drink
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:I recline. I don't consider myself rude for doing it.
I am upright during take off, landing, food time and when there is turbulence. I do a quick look back before I recline.
I am not a good flyer so do everything I can to (try, try, try
) to relax and hopefully (but rarely) sleep to get me throught the flight.I would consider it rude if the person behind me didn't want to me to recline but, instead of communicating it to me in a civil manner, decided instead to kick the back of my seat or poke me or whatever
. We are all on the plane together so we have to be tolerant. It's a bus in the sky, it's not a limo in the sky. If you want to be extra comfy and get your way, then pay for first class.
I don't understand why I should not recline so that someone else can use their laptop. I think that also falls in the just cuz you can do it doesn't mean you should category. Using your laptop is for your benefit, reclining is for mine. The difference is, we can both recline because it is a feature of the seat on the plane. We don't both have laptops though, so I have to give up my feature so you can have yours? That's doen't make sense to me.
I can understand not reclining cuz someone still has food/drinks on their tray table. I would apologize immensley if I caused someone to spill food/drink
.waterguy- I've been to Rome!
I did the backpacking/hostel thing through Europe while in college.
Rome is cool becasue you get to see stuff that you saw in textbooks during school- the Colloseum (sp?), etc. (sidenote: The Colloseum had a lot of stray cats hanging around it)
It is very crowded and not as clean as one would think. I remember the air quality not being so great too but maybe that has changed.
One of the ancient buildings is actually butted up against some apartment buildings in a small crowded square. Very strange to see that coming from America where we can barely get near any important historical sites.
Cheap but GOOD food can be had here at pretty much any small pizza/panini shop. I fell in love with tomato/mozz/basil panini's in Italy. Way better than what you get here.
And you've not had bread until you had bread in Italy. OMG. Nothing that is baked in America even comes close.
I did the backpacking/hostel thing through Europe while in college.
Rome is cool becasue you get to see stuff that you saw in textbooks during school- the Colloseum (sp?), etc. (sidenote: The Colloseum had a lot of stray cats hanging around it)
It is very crowded and not as clean as one would think. I remember the air quality not being so great too but maybe that has changed.
One of the ancient buildings is actually butted up against some apartment buildings in a small crowded square. Very strange to see that coming from America where we can barely get near any important historical sites.
Cheap but GOOD food can be had here at pretty much any small pizza/panini shop. I fell in love with tomato/mozz/basil panini's in Italy. Way better than what you get here.
And you've not had bread until you had bread in Italy. OMG. Nothing that is baked in America even comes close.