One thing that's bothering me ALOT

[Pete (Mr. Marcia)]

Or "mulato"...Ha! Yes girls, it is still an outdated term that I don't know how to spell!

Connie, this is the ultimate can of worms.

All of your internet research aside, the intent of your post was to incite. Look at the delight in your words quoted above. Your exclamation points make your words dance like a pesky court jester.

Flip called you on that, more than anything. When called out, you attempt to hide behind "internet" research to justify the term you used. You don't get it...it wasn't just the term you used, you used it knowing full well that you would incite a negative reaction.

[MrB]

Or "mulato"...Ha! Yes girls, it is still an outdated term that I don't know how to spell!

Connie, this is the ultimate can of worms.

All of your internet research aside, the intent of your post was to incite. Look at the delight in your words quoted above. Your exclamation points make your words dance like a pesky court jester.

Flip called you on that, more than anything. When called out, you attempt to hide behind "internet" research to justify the term you used. You don't get it...it wasn't just the term you used, you used it knowing full well that you would incite a negative reaction.

OR........

Shut up douche.

It saves time typing.

[California Girl]

mulatto   Pronunciation [muh-lat-oh, -lah-toh, myoo-]

Origin:
1585–95; < Sp mulato young mule

Definition of mule:

hybrid offspring of a male donkey and a female horse; usually sterile

In my opinion calling someone a mulatto is the same as calling them a sterile mule. Akin to an ass. It is offensive and degrading, regardless of how many antiquarian quotes one may find to support it on the Internet.

[DaveS007]

I think Douche is worse. Bag.

[promoguy]

I think it is much more powerful when one of the same political party can call out another of the same party as a TOTAL DOUCHE BAG.

I love sending nicely phrased ad hominem attacks.

[flip-flop]

So funny. You found the three people on the internet that perfer mulatto to biracial or even better, multicultural.

By virture of my interracial marriage I know a lot of biracial people - black and white and asian and white and even asian and black. I have yet to meet a single one who would take kindly to being called a mulatto by the likes of you.

Again, Pete was dead on, my point wasn't so much the inappropriateness of you using the term mulatto as to point out your use of it to inflame. Something you are really quite good at.

As a matter of fact, please use the term often. Loudly in public, not here safely behind a screen name, preferably in reference to our president and report back on your experiences.

You continue to expose either your ignorance or your simple indifference to the feelings of others.

Don't insult my children with the term mulatto and I won't invoke yours further. Deal?

[flip-flop]

Or "mulato"...Ha! Yes girls, it is still an outdated term that I don't know how to spell!

Connie, this is the ultimate can of worms.

All of your internet research aside, the intent of your post was to incite. Look at the delight in your words quoted above. Your exclamation points make your words dance like a pesky court jester.

Flip called you on that, more than anything. When called out, you attempt to hide behind "internet" research to justify the term you used. You don't get it...it wasn't just the term you used, you used it knowing full well that you would incite a negative reaction.

And I let the "Ha Girls" slide. Clearly, not only does Mr. Soxfan have issues with our new president's skin but also with us gals having opinions and such. Such a class act all around, I'd say.

One of my favorite moments over the past couple of days was when I was watching one of the news programs the other day. Soledad O'Brien (biracial herself) was commenting on having a conversation with her daughter, who is 6 like mine, about the gravity of this moment in history. O'brien said to her we will have a black president. Her daughter wasn't getting the significance. O'brien added, "ever!" Her daughter in disbelief responded, "We've NEVER had a black president." So foreign was the concept to her that she simply could not believe it had never happened before. What a different world my children grow up in than did I.

Its been a long time coming! Whether small minds want to admit it or not, this is a transformative moment that no one can take away from us. As a matter of fact, the vast majority agree. A gallop poll found "Most Americans (78%) see Barack Obama’s presidential inauguration as at least one of the most historic the nation has had, including 33% who consider it the most historic ever."

[sailorgirl]

So funny. You found the three people on the internet that perfer mulatto to biracial or even better, multicultural.

By virture of my interracial marriage I know a lot of biracial people - black and white and asian and white and even asian and black. I have yet to meet a single one who would take kindly to being called a mulatto by the likes of you.

Again, Pete was dead on, my point wasn't so much the inappropriateness of you using the term mulatto as to point out your use of it to inflame. Something you are really quite good at.

As a matter of fact, please use the term often. Loudly in public, not here safely behind a screen name, preferably in reference to our president and report back on your experiences.

You continue to expose either your ignorance or your simple indifference to the feelings of others.

Don't insult my children with the term mulatto and I won't invoke yours further. Deal?

You Rock Flip!

[soxfan22]

Now I am a Racist, Sexist Douchebag.

Now I go back to really the genesis of this 2nd round of political banter. That would be a few days ago when CAgirl posted the picture of the George Bush crapper. I actually thought it to be a bit funny...But at the same time, was that not an intent to flame?

You guys know there are a few on here who have a deep admiration for the former president. Yet you continue with the insults and the disrespect that Hitler himself probably never had to endure.

I could understand your outrage and complete hatred for me if we weren't playing on a two-way street here.

You'all should be allowed to say whatever you'd like about George Bush, yet if we do not give your guy a "fair chance", well then there will be hell to pay.

I found this forum two years ago. Loved it from day 1. Many of you are probably the foremost experts in the world on all things St. John.

But to be honest, many of you have been injecting anti-Bush venom into various threads looooong before any of this started up last fall. One poster in particular PM'd me a few months after I joined and told me as much. I had been responding to a rather unflattering, insulting remark made about Bush not on the Off-Topic forum, but actually in one of the threads on the VI forum.

This person wrote me and thanked me for standing up to that person...That insensitive, disrespectful Bush-hater has been posting here tonight. In the PM, my like-minded conservative said that these remarks had been numerous little digs inserted here and there...But nobody ever challenged them.

The fact is, you guys EMBRACE dissent when there is a conservative in the White House. Yet when the 2nd most liberal member of the Senate is elected president, we conservatives are supposed to fall in line and "give him a chance".

Say what you will about Bush's approval after 9-11, but that man was never given an ounce of a "fair chance". He was the guy who "stole the election" from Day 1.

Your disrespectful nature and condescending remarks/pictures (bu-bye) of George W. Bush are as insulting to me as the term "mulatto" is to you. Why is one more wrong than the other?

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[promoguy]

Relax Chico. I'm a conservative and believe me I know a douche bag when I 'read' one.

[Cid]

I actually believed MLK when he said it would happen. I think after years of Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton as leaders of the Black community, hopes were dim. Obama kind of came from out of the blue to not only become the leader of the free world, but the leader of the Black community for many years to come, which actually may be much more significant

As I read down this thread SJfromNJ has made comments that are honest and pretty spot on. Nice job..

As for the other banter, all I can say is that some people just are the way they are. Some people realize it and some don't. All the arguing in the world won't change that.

[Ondine]

Your disrespectful nature and condescending remarks/pictures (bu-bye) of George W. Bush are as insulting to me as the term "mulatto" is to you. Why is one more wrong than the other?

One is a personal attack, the other is expressing opinion on a non-personal subject. Favoring GW Bush no different than my favoring the Red Sox, if someone said endless offensive things about the Red Sox, I would not take this personally vs. someone saying something offensive about my race which is who I am, that would be personal.
Not knowing the difference is likely to make life more difficult...I would recommend reading the Four Aggreements, it might give some good persective.

[California Girl]

Now I go back to really the genesis of this 2nd round of political banter. That would be a few days ago when CAgirl posted the picture of the George Bush crapper. I actually thought it to be a bit funny...But at the same time, was that not an intent to flame?

You just don't get it and you never will.

For one thing, I didn't PRINT that sticker, I just took a picture of it. I took the picture and shared it with the forum because I thought it was funny. It was never meant to inflame (or "flame" as you said). But since you prefer to think of it as inflammatory, you are welcome to. Just as you are welcome to think that the word "hanged", as I used it, was a racial reference.

I'm tired of explaining myself to you and I'm tired of you... Yawwwwn. Get over your bad self. You bore me.

[soxfan22]

Ondine...I do not believe it is up to anyone to judge the degree to which someone can be insulted by another's comments about anything. As everyone around here like to say, it is not about content, but tone. And the tone as it relates to GWB is completely disgusting.

I do not put The Boston Red Sox on the same plane as the President of the United States of America. One is entertainment, one demands at minimum, respect.