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The other 800lb Gorilla in the campaign is SAD
I don't really have an opinion on either woman's "hotness," but I remember after meeting Mrs. Clinton in 1998, one of my fellow campaign workers (a male, if you wondered) said she was "much hotter in real life, and you don't realize what a huge rack she has on TV."
So, I guess she'd get his vote for MILF.
Not that being a MILF makes you qualified to run America.
So, I guess she'd get his vote for MILF.
Not that being a MILF makes you qualified to run America.
From the guy who said talking about McCain's age or health was below the belt this is particularly rich.SJfromNJ wrote:
Sounds to me like you may be a bit jealous of Gov. Palins appearance. I think she one tough lady who don't take sh!t from anybody. And she is much more attractive than... Hilary.
Let me take a moment while I pause to say my very own, WOW!
I know lots of guys who might want to have sex with her, but who aren't letting that cloud their judgement when it comes to the question of is she qualified - not to be president, but to be our VP. If she doesn't even know what the VP does (once admitting she flat out didn't know and later saying the VP is in charge of the senate) then she is unqualified for either. Her being pretty or not has nothing to do with her being ignorant.
The dems don't even have to argue this one very passionately, there are enough conservatives doing it for us. There are 8th graders in Civics class who know more about our constitution than she does. Her ignorance is deliberate and defiant. When asked a tough question she changes the subject. Better yet she throws out incendiary hateful language or folksy words to distract us. Furthermore, if she had two brain cells to rub together she would have been able to come up to speed on these issues especially considering the prep sessions and professionals available to her.
It is this choice to remain ignorant that bothers me (and frankly makes me think she is very much Bush in a dress), not that she is prettier than I am. Though, she definitely is. But then again, I did not have the benefit of a $150,000 wardrobe make-over or a $20,000+ makeup artist.
Think about that. The "Joe the Plumber" candidate is re-outfitted with a $150,000 wardrobe. My first house cost $150,000. $150,000 is almost three times the median annual household income of $50,233.00 in this country (Source: Census Bureau).
Did it not even occur to anyone that this would not play well in the public. Who is out of touch?
Obama and his family are paying for their own clothing and home, but he's the elitist. No wonder I keep getting confused!
Regardless, someone spent $150,000 on clothing and accessories for her and her family.
Of course they aren't hers, because then she would have to pay taxes on them as income.
Sort of like the renovations to Alaska Sentor Steven's house weren't really for him, they were for his friend who uses the house more than he does.
Nice try to spin it, but I am not drinking that coolaide.
Again - my larger points were that it was funny to me that you choose to insinuate Lulu's problem with Palin is that she's prettier than her and you going on to discussing H. Clinton's physical appearance relative to Palin after saying discussions about McCain's age are unethical. (Makes it hard to believe that Obama's physical appearance, including the color of his skin, is irrelevant). Oh, and my other point is that she is WILLFULLY ignorant. The $150,000 wardrobe was just icing.
Of course they aren't hers, because then she would have to pay taxes on them as income.
Sort of like the renovations to Alaska Sentor Steven's house weren't really for him, they were for his friend who uses the house more than he does.
Nice try to spin it, but I am not drinking that coolaide.
Again - my larger points were that it was funny to me that you choose to insinuate Lulu's problem with Palin is that she's prettier than her and you going on to discussing H. Clinton's physical appearance relative to Palin after saying discussions about McCain's age are unethical. (Makes it hard to believe that Obama's physical appearance, including the color of his skin, is irrelevant). Oh, and my other point is that she is WILLFULLY ignorant. The $150,000 wardrobe was just icing.
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The $1.5+ million price tag on Obama’s house doesn’t exactly make him a man of the people. I don’t have a problem with the price of his house, if he has the money it is his prerogative to spend whatever he wants on his house, but I say it as a counterpoint to the fervor over Palin’s wardrobe.flip-flop wrote:
Think about that. The "Joe the Plumber" candidate is re-outfitted with a $150,000 wardrobe. My first house cost $150,000. $150,000 is almost three times the median annual household income of $50,233.00 in this country (Source: Census Bureau).
Did it not even occur to anyone that this would not play well in the public. Who is out of touch?
Obama and his family are paying for their own clothing and home, but he's the elitist. No wonder I keep getting confused!
Obama is known for wearing expensive suits and shoes, and yeah, he pays for them himself. So Palin is somehow worse by comparison because she can’t afford to spend as much on clothes as Obama can? Should we only elect politicians who are wealthy enough to buy all of their designer clothing on their own?
Palin is under fire for her wardrobe way more than any male candidate would ever be, just like Hillary was. It’s a major double standard.
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I just don't get why, when there are so many important issues at stake, why is there even any discussion as to how pretty or "hawt" a candidate is. This is such a non-issue.
And SJ, how can you even make a comment like this?
That is a rude, insensitive and sexist comment.
And by the way, Hillary is spelled with 2 "L's".
And SJ, how can you even make a comment like this?
Has anyone said anything about what McCain, Obama or Biden look like?Sounds to me like you may be a bit jealous of Gov. Palins appearance....
...And she is much more attractive than... Hilary.
That is a rude, insensitive and sexist comment.
And by the way, Hillary is spelled with 2 "L's".
No, but no one needs a $150,000 wardrobe to run for VP. NO one. My issue is arguing that she is authentic and a real American when she happily goes along and plays the game like everyone else. Why did she accept the duds if she was happy with her consignment shop clothes?
Obama has 1 house. McCain doesn't even know how many houses he has.
Obama has 1 house. McCain doesn't even know how many houses he has.
The hypocrisy sensor is apparently broken at Camp McCain/Palin. Who is in charge over there? The ONLY reasons the wardrobe story had legs is because of the ultra-populist hockey Mom theme they were shoving down our throats. When uncovered, first they said she needed clothes for the different kinds of weather she would face on the campaign trail. Then the whole we’ll donate it to charity thing. Now they put her back into her own clothes. Get out in front of the story!
Aren’t you shocked at how badly the McCain campaign is being run? I mean, face it, this is (was?) winnable for him. There are legitimate issues with Obama, but picking Palin, constantly changing the narrative of the campaign, not being able to sense when to pivot away from the tactics that aren’t working, etc.
I would be going nuts if I were a McCain supporter, not that Obama/Biden have run a perfect campaign either, but you don't hear the words the "disiplined" and "organized" to describe McCain/Palin campaign, but sometimes you do about the Obama team, and when was the last time you heard that about Democrats?
Aren’t you shocked at how badly the McCain campaign is being run? I mean, face it, this is (was?) winnable for him. There are legitimate issues with Obama, but picking Palin, constantly changing the narrative of the campaign, not being able to sense when to pivot away from the tactics that aren’t working, etc.
I would be going nuts if I were a McCain supporter, not that Obama/Biden have run a perfect campaign either, but you don't hear the words the "disiplined" and "organized" to describe McCain/Palin campaign, but sometimes you do about the Obama team, and when was the last time you heard that about Democrats?
When we come to place where the sea and the sky collide
Throw me over the edge and let my spirit glide
Throw me over the edge and let my spirit glide
By that defition I suppose Wasilla's current mayor is also qualified to be our VP and potentially our president.
Here she is in action. The duties of the mayor of Wasilla are quite intense.
My hometown is larger than Wasilla and the mayor there cuts my mom's grass. Personally. I am just saying.
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Here she is in action. The duties of the mayor of Wasilla are quite intense.
My hometown is larger than Wasilla and the mayor there cuts my mom's grass. Personally. I am just saying.
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The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction ActSJfromNJ wrote:
Flip give me just one meaningful thing that
Obama had lead/done/accomplished in the Senate.
Authored by U.S. Sens. Dick Lugar (R-IN) and Barack Obama (D-IL), the Lugar-Obama initiative expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons. It also expands the State Department's ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction.
Signed into Law on January 11, 2007.
Bipartison and meaningful.
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Hey I am curious, does anyone remember how much was that house that Clinton had the government pay for up in New York because his wife had to be near here new "constituency”. As I recall it was in the millions range.....what with all the additional security requirements the Secret Service mandated……oh, and how much was it for the SS to put themselves into the picture there in Manhattan annually....1 million plus.....
Please don’t act like it is only the GOP putting their faces into the public trough.
Please don’t act like it is only the GOP putting their faces into the public trough.
Really? Hmm...that's an interesting statistic that I do not question. However, statistics can be twisted and turned into showing anything you want them to show.loria wrote:21% of presidents don't finish out their terms...so there's a 1 in 5 chance that Palin would be president just based on those stats.
I think McCain's health and age are serious issues. and I had a tremendous amout of respect for McCain, until he chose Palin, i think it was truly a huge lapse in judgement.
So tell me, loria, who was the last President who didn't finish out his term due to illness or death (Nixon? no he was just paranoid. JFK? nope, doesn't count). Please, enlighten us.
As for JFK, there's real question as to whether he would've finished his term (had it ot been for the nutjob LHO) due to the MANY physical ailments he had (Addison's Disease) - and he was young!
July 2003 - Honeymoon at The Westin
July 2004 - Glenmar, Gifft Hill
July 2005 - Arco Iris, Fish Bay
December 2007 - Dreamcatcher, GCB
July 2008 - Ellison Villa, VGE
July 2004 - Glenmar, Gifft Hill
July 2005 - Arco Iris, Fish Bay
December 2007 - Dreamcatcher, GCB
July 2008 - Ellison Villa, VGE
According to Truth or Fiction a non partison myth debunking site. By the way, before you go saying they are also leftie commies, they also say that the rumor that as mayor Sarah Palin Banned Books is fiction.
Summary of Rumor
Bill and Hillary Clinton bought a house in New York, but there was no room for the Secret Service, so they built a special area for the Secret Service...and are charging the same amount for the Secret Service's use of that area as their mortgage payment.
The Truth
All presidents and former presidents are eligible for Secret Service protection and, according to a Secret Service spokesman, the presidents are reimbursed for any area of the home that is used by Secret Service agents. The amount is based on a formula, however, not defined by the homeowner. Based on that formula, Mr. Clinton would be eligible for more than $1,000, but he has declined the money for his New York home.
Summary of Rumor
Bill and Hillary Clinton bought a house in New York, but there was no room for the Secret Service, so they built a special area for the Secret Service...and are charging the same amount for the Secret Service's use of that area as their mortgage payment.
The Truth
All presidents and former presidents are eligible for Secret Service protection and, according to a Secret Service spokesman, the presidents are reimbursed for any area of the home that is used by Secret Service agents. The amount is based on a formula, however, not defined by the homeowner. Based on that formula, Mr. Clinton would be eligible for more than $1,000, but he has declined the money for his New York home.