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American to charge for 1st checked bag

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:59 am
by jmq
I wonder if this will stick or spread. Who knows as we head towards $150/barrel oil.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080521/ap_ ... reductions

Also note capacity reductions. May not bode well for travel to VIs as they are top carrier to Caribbean.

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:25 pm
by SusanNJ
Wow, if this does go through then you know the other airlines will follow suit. What a shame.

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:46 pm
by Teresa_Rae
Now we can look forward to people fighting over overhead space even more! :(

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:01 pm
by RickG
I love the idea of having everything a la carte. Charge by weight and volume!

Cheers, RickG

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:06 pm
by liamsaunt
It would be nice, since they are instituting this fee, if in an effort to maximixe their revenue they could work out a way to make people actually conform to the current carry on restrictions. It's not fair that some people bring huge bags on board and then there's not enough room for everyone's things.

I'd also be interested in knowing what they plan to do if the paid for checked bag is lost or delayed. Will there be a refund of this charge?

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:10 pm
by California Girl
Its proposed fee for a first checked bag would exempt people who belong to elite levels of its frequent flyer programs, those who bought full-fare tickets and those traveling overseas.
So who does that leave? What's the difference between a full-fare ticket and any other ticket? I'm not being bitchy...I really don't know!
The changes were being made to adapt to "the current reality of slow economic growth and high oil prices," Arpey said.
...and what do you want to bet if oil prices come down (not likely!) and economic growth speeds up, the airlines won't revert to their old ways, but continue to rake in the revenue from these extra charges. :roll:

I'm with Teresa on this one....there goes the overhead space!

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:12 pm
by California Girl
liamsaunt wrote:I'd also be interested in knowing what they plan to do if the paid for checked bag is lost or delayed. Will there be a refund of this charge?
Ha! Good one Becky! :lol:

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:26 pm
by CariBert
Well, maybe they'll start offering pillows again to ease our pain............NOT!

Dam




-Bert

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:36 pm
by Pia
And just think how much more time check in will take with you having to pay for your bags, I assume payment will be made via credit card - I know you can already pre pay on some airlines that are currently charging but not everyone knows for sure how many bags they will be taking until last minute and of course there will always be the passengers that fly once every 10 years and aren't "up to date" on the rules - you know the ones that still don't know you can't carry a bottle of rum or a knife on board :shock:

Heaven help us when the computers go down at the STT airport and they have to start taking those payments by writing them out :shock: - better start planning a 5 hour window :lol: :shock: :wink:

Pia

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:39 pm
by jimg20
California Girl wrote:
Its proposed fee for a first checked bag would exempt people who belong to elite levels of its frequent flyer programs, those who bought full-fare tickets and those traveling overseas.
So who does that leave? What's the difference between a full-fare ticket and any other ticket? I'm not being bitchy...I really don't know!

A full fare in coach is one with the fare codes starting with "Y". It may also include "B" fares. The most common discounted fares include "Q" and "K" fares.

JIM

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:44 pm
by California Girl
Thanks for clearing that up for me Jim! :)

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:44 pm
by RickG
There is an easy solution:

- Your bag does not conform to our carryon restrictions - go the the BACK OF THE LINE and pay to have your bags checked! We'd be happy to sell you this tape measure for a special price of $$$.

- Your bag does not fit in the overhead bin, wheels first. You need to exit the plane, go to the BACK OF THE LINE and purchase a ticket for the next available flight and pay for a checked bag.

- You are larger than the seat you purchased, you need to go to the BACK OF THE LINE and buy 2 adjoining seats.

This is a tragedy of the commons scenario: everyone is encouraged to consume as much of the shared resource as possible with no repercussions. I say, put those repercussion in place! A contract for carriage has two sides, enforce them both.

Cheers, RickG

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 3:44 pm
by promoguy
RickG wrote:There is an easy solution:

- Your bag does not conform to our carryon restrictions - go the the BACK OF THE LINE and pay to have your bags checked! We'd be happy to sell you this tape measure for a special price of $$$.

- Your bag does not fit in the overhead bin, wheels first. You need to exit the plane, go to the BACK OF THE LINE and purchase a ticket for the next available flight and pay for a checked bag.

- You are larger than the seat you purchased, you need to go to the BACK OF THE LINE and buy 2 adjoining seats.

This is a tragedy of the commons scenario: everyone is encouraged to consume as much of the shared resource as possible with no repercussions. I say, put those repercussion in place! A contract for carriage has two sides, enforce them both.

Cheers, RickG
RickG, you sound like a business guy. Yep, good idea.

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:58 pm
by nascarfan59
Since the added weight of extra luggage uses more fuel, why don't they charge for the total amount of wieght you are bringing on the plane. That is, yourself, luggage, carry on, etc.

How is it called "carry on" if it is being wheeled down the aisle? :?

Just my 2 cents.

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:44 pm
by islandgirl
grrrrrrr :evil: with all this b.s. with the airlines and tsa we are thinking of doing a private charter flight. :shock: :shock: only kidding :lol: :lol: :lol: wonder if the airfares get so high that no one can afford it anymore..that what scares me. doing without stj..no way. now is the time to book for next year before the price gets so crazy. :wink: :wink: