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small world/long story

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:52 am
by JT
I've had a strange week. One of my best friend's dad died last week. I was pretty close to his dad,too. I was asked to be a pall bearer. I was stunned to find out that one of the other pall bearers was the owner of the Soggy Dollar and Peter Bay co-developer. Most of you know how much I "just love" the Peter Bay mega-development! So when I was introduced to Jerry O'Connell I said in my usual, restrained, sarcastic style, "Wow!, I've said some really nice things about you while sitting on Francis Bay Beach". Jerry looked at me with a friendly twinkle in his eye and said,"Man, I can't even get away from it 2000 miles away." After the funeral mass, the family had a get together at a local restaurant and Mr. O'Connell and I spent a long time talking about STJ/Peter Bay and the Soggy Dollar. Well, after hearing his side of things, I'll sum it up by saying that he's a really good guy that really isn't too happy with what Peter Bay became. He gave me a long history of not just his involvement, but the family that he bought it from, to the park's screw ups, his razor edge brushes with bankruptcy early on, and also a little insider stuff about the place referred to as the Monster.Com "house", which is actually incorrect. It is being built by a guy who did pretty good for himself at Qualcomm and was savvy enough to know when to get out. . Before anybody jumps in my $h*t for repeating any of this conversation, I asked Jerry if he minded me posting it and I was told, "Please do."
A long time ago a local West Indian bought Peter Farm. He died in 1926. As often happens, the family had disagreements over the ownership. Things happen slowly in the islands. The battle went from 1926 to 1976! Meanwhile, while the family battle was ongoing, L. Rockefeller did his park donation thing. Well, the story goes that the park service built the North Shore Road and cut through Peter Farm with it without permission or compensation to the family. Now the family grows to hate the park service. Eventually, around 1976, the courts settle the estate issues and determines who gets what. In comes Jerry and his partner. They bought approximately 2/3 of Peter Farm from the local W.I. family, on an owner financed deal. Then the economy turned south. They tried to sell it to the park. Thought it was a done deal. Now the local family hates the partners,' cause they really hate the park! Right before the settlement with the park was to happen a certain U.S. senator from West Virginia blocked the appropriation. Deal falls through. Our heroes are really sweating now. They owe big time. Then they sell one lot and make the payment due. A big place gets built. Too soon, the next payment's due. On the edge again, and again near the final hour, another lot sells, another house gets built. See the pattern? It snowballed, Jerry made a lot of money, buys the Soggy Dollar, the W.I. family loves him because they still own the 1/3 of Peter Farm, and who knows what it's worth! OK, now for the next chapter. A certain C&W entertainer finds STJ and buys a few properties. He sings songs about it. He talks about in in national interviews. He gets married there. Then it gets to where he has gotten so well known he can't enjoy any privacy there any more. Seems it's the same for him on Jost van Dyke now, too. It seems he wrote a song about an old chair. It seems that a certain place of business on JVD had a couple of wicker chairs mysteriously disappear right around the time "one" supposedly washed up on the beach on STJ! It seems the owner gets a call one night from a friend at a concert of our C&W star in Atlanta. The friend tells the business owner that his missing chair is on the stage! Do you think that this could be like one of those stories the day sail captains tell, seasoned with the tradewinds of the Caribbean? You judge.
One post note. When our C&W star does still come to STJ he stays at his place in Chocolate Hole. It seems because of his notoriety in the Caribbean, he and his posse have moved their playground operation to Malibu.

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:17 pm
by JT
Two more things I meant to say. I've known Jerry's brother for a while. I've met his brother-in-law a few times. I always ask them," How's your carpetbagger brother/ brother-in-law?" After meeting Jerry, I told him when I see his brother or his wife's brother, I'll probably still ask how the carpetbagger's doing. He laughed. The next time I see the development at Peter Bay, it won't look any less hideous too me. The curse on the hemorrhoids that I've always directed in my mind at the developer might get lifted though.
I get the strong feeling that he will try his damnest to keep the Soggy Dollar with the same spirit, but like any business, "profit" is not a four letter word. I got the impression that he and his family love what they've got there.

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:25 pm
by Kentuckygirl
Wow JT! Let me start by saying that I am sorry about the loss of your friend's Dad. I hope that your friend and other close ones are doing ok.
What a story you got from Jerry! It is very interesting to hear his side and how everything came about! What a coincidence for you to meet him under those circumstances ... and many miles away from the Virgin Islands! Thank you for sharing your story with us!

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:22 pm
by RickG
Great story, even better shared at the memorial of a good friend. There's a lot of backstory there. I'm curious if he mentioned the kite bar or any other pre-Peter Bay stories?

Qualcomm is what I had heard about the rock monster years ago. The Monster.com story is just too alliterative to be true.

Be Well.

Cheers, RickG

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:01 pm
by liamsaunt
How interesting, JT. Thanks for sharing that little bit of history.

I'm sorry about your friend's dad.

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:35 pm
by Maryanne
Very interesting. Thanks.

I heard Qualcomm too, once upon a time.

Sorry about the dad...

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:29 pm
by designbyroe
Sorry about your friend's dad. I know how hard it is to lose someone that is like a dad to you.....
Thanks for the post about PB and Jerry.
I heard when I lived on island that those chairs did start out on Jost but ended up in Peter Bay. I heard they were down at 'the beach house' owned by the other partner and that the CW singer borrowed them.
I said to my friend on island that chair gets royalties so the partner in Peter Bay could have made more $$$$.......lol

Heard he sold his place in Malibu and who knows where the sea winds will take him now.......
Thanks again for the story.......

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:13 pm
by California Girl
Wow, cool story JT! Thanks for posting it. Malibu?? Well, THAT'S certainly a departure from STJ! And he thinks he's going to get privacy there? HA!! Just ask Britney how much privacy SHE gets! :lol:

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:23 pm
by designbyroe
California Girl wrote:Wow, cool story JT! Thanks for posting it. Malibu?? Well, THAT'S certainly a departure from STJ! And he thinks he's going to get privacy there? HA!! Just ask Britney how much privacy SHE gets! :lol:
think that is why he has put it on the market.......the press posted the addy so definatly no privacy.......lol
think st. john is much better anyway.........
CA coast is gorgeous but I would head more towards Morro bay......

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:56 pm
by California Girl
Jorge, you always know just what to say! LMAO!!

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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:23 am
by JT
Thanks to everyone for all of your kind words of condolences!


Jorge wrote: So JT.Does this mean you will stay with us at Coco next time? Jorge

Naw, That's a little too far to the west part of the isle for my tastes. Besides, I still think that place has bad joss, Boss.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:55 am
by JT
[SJfromNJ wrote:
Nice story but rubbin elbows with the carpetbaggers aint you. The times they are a changin! Maybe tea with the developer of the Hyatt/Westin next?

Not bloody likely! I've actually been offered a week there, for free, from a friend. Wouldn't take him up on it. Hey, they wouldn't like my tea either. I 'm just not grown up enough to enjoy that place. Hey,look, SJ, I said I'd think about lifting the curse I put on their hemorrhoids didn't I?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:06 am
by Exit Zero
The Westin/Hyatt was actually built as the St J Virgin Grand by the Allen/Williams group who had built the STT Virgin Grand[on Pineapple Beach,now closed]
Their children and ours were best friends in HS and they were and still are a gracious family.
Skopbank of Finland and permitting problems on their next project combined to force them out and it set a different course from there.
Not all developers here are carpetbaggers.
The very hip campground that was Peter Bay and the Kite in the early days should have enough karma to haunt the present houses there to some Jumbie extent.