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Roti,Pate,Johnny Cake

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:36 pm
by Buckwheat
Could someone explain these three food items. Are they the same things and who on SJ serves the best of these items.

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:47 pm
by mia
I have very limited experience...but I do love the Johnny Cakes at Vie's on the East End...mia

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:57 pm
by liamsaunt
This is my understanding of the foods and best places to getv them on St. John...anyone feel free to correct me!

Roti: a large flat bread, kind of like a paratha, filled with a hot (curried?) meat or fish, served with a chutney. (Miss Lucys)

Pate: a turnover-type item...basically dough wrapped around a filling and then fried: beef, chicken, or saltfish. (Hercules)

Johnnycake: a dense pan-fried cake made from cornmeal, served hot, sometimes with honey (Miss Vies)

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:01 pm
by Pete (Mr. Marcia)
Joe's Dinner has a pretty decent Johnny Cake. We like to share them with the "street chickens."

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:10 pm
by JT
The best roti I ever had was at Sweet Plantains.
Sputniks also has roti 1 day a week, I think. Sputniks is very much a local place in Coral Bay, and very inexpensive, where as Sweet Plantains is closer to fine dining.

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:23 pm
by Xislandgirl
Willy T has a killer Chicken Roti.

I second Pete's recommendation of Joe Dinner. I like it with cheese on it.

I don't think you can beat Hercule's Pates but some days he runs out so get their early.

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:55 pm
by promoguy
I've always thought of a roti as a very large burrito, but much better tasting.

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:23 pm
by RickG
Hercule's pates are interesting, a short bread rather than a pastry crust. I think they are great. He makes a killer Johnny Cake too. Slightly better are the ones we get from Made From Scratch Bakery next to Tamarind Court.

Cheers, RickG

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:52 am
by ccasebolt
liamsaunt wrote: Roti: a large flat bread, kind of like a paratha, filled with a hot (curried?) meat or fish, served with a chutney. (Miss Lucys)
Yes, roti is curried - usually chicken, but sometimes fish as well. You can also find potatoes in the curried mixture.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:46 am
by JWC
Where are Hercules and Joe's Diner? Thanks

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:33 am
by kirk
JWC wrote:Where are Hercules and Joe's Diner? Thanks
Joe's is across the street from Rhumlines. next to Cafe Roma. my favorite pate is from the Inn at Tamarind Court on tues and thurs.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:46 am
by Exit Zero
When you leave the airport in STT on your right just before Island Beachcomber there is a yellow truck operated by Matthew, sitting in the parking lot, he makes the best -IMO- pate. Great way to start your vacation and even better to have on the plane on the way home.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:55 am
by GaryLC
JT wrote: Sputniks also has roti 1 day a week, I think. Sputniks is very much a local place in Coral Bay, and very inexpensive, where as Sweet Plantains is closer to fine dining.
I'll second Sputniks! Julie (JuJu) is probably the sweetest, most loving woman my wife & I have ever met! We stumbled in there one night the first year we were there, and it's a main stop now every time we go. Again, very, very local, nothing fancy. Great place to get some drinks, talk to the locals, and JuJu cooks up whatever she feels like doing at the time, no menu to speak of. It's right next to the Donkey Diner, please stop in and support her!!

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:17 am
by Maryanne
I love roti---but have had the consistently best ones in the BVIs.

In January, I had a rather gelatinous roti (disappointing, tasteless) at Miss Lucy's. I had a good one at Sweet Plantains. And a very good one at Gladys' on STT.