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St. Thomas car rental to St. John via ferry?

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:15 pm
by sea change
We are heading down to St. John once again this November. I was hoping to rent a car on St. Thomas and ride the car ferry over to St. John. Do rental agencies allow this?

If anyone could provide some guidance I would sure appreciate it. Thanks guys. I love this site.

Sea change

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:23 pm
by Lulu76
From what I understand, only Hertz does not permit you to drive rental cars from STT to STJ.

However, having seen the car ferry, I am very glad that we decided to rent from St John Car Rental!

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:55 pm
by sea change
OK...Lulu76 just freaked me out. I should have added the fact that our 19 month old daughter will be with us. Is the car ferry from St. Thomas that bad?

Sea change

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:00 pm
by Lulu76
No, I'm just not one for boats. And I really don't think I'd like a boat full of cars.

I'm sure it's perfectly safe, but I've got enough worries about me and my suitcase that I don't want to try to get a Jeep Wrangler on the boat too.

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:47 pm
by USVISuzyQ
Car ferries are just fine, no problems. The nice thing about renting on STT is the ability to go grocery shopping before hitting the barge. It also postpones the walk of woe until you get to the airport. Plus if you have extra time on the day of your departure, you can always goof around on STT before heading to the airport.

Sue

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:22 am
by RD
Sea, we rented thru Budget at the STT airport and it worked out great. As already mentioned, we stopped for groceries on the way to Red Hook to catch the car ferry which saved some money. To me it's nice to be able to throw luggage in the jeep in STT and not have to pick it up again until you get to your villa. As another piece of advice, don't buy the round trip car ferry ticket because when the time comes to go back to STT you might be riding on a different ferry than the one you came over on.

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:38 pm
by sailorgirl
I rode the car ferry over the Saturday
"Mr. Dean" rolled through. Even with pretty bad conditons it was nothing that would deter me from doing it again. On a normal day its a beautiful ride. Walk up stairs and the views are magnificent

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:19 am
by Bob & Anita
Here is our usual post regarding this question:

The renting a car on STJ versus STT is a question that gets asked quite a bit on this forum; in fact we were asking the same question ourselves a few years ago. There are opinions (sometimes strong) for both ways; our preference is for renting on STT for the following reasons:
1) A lot less baggage handling – the car rental company (Dependable) picked you up at the airport and loads our bags into our rental car. The next time we touched the bags is unloading them at the villa,
2) Avoid the whole taxi thing and its associated costs and tipping,
3) Avoid the bag handlers/handling at the passenger ferry and the associate cost and tipping,
4) Buy our groceries for the week on STT on the way to Red Hook from the airport at lower cost then STJ; same with the booze,
5) When we drove off the barge, our villa rep was right there and we kept driving straight to the villa; we never stopped rolling,
6) Some STT car rental companies (such as Dependable) have no issues with the top being removed from the jeeps, unlike the STJ companies. If fact, Dependable evens boast it as one of their features, and
7) Flexibility when returning to St Thomas to drive around, find a lunch spot, etc, before returning the car and flying home.

The positives on renting on STJ are:
1) Some companies will let you use their lots when parking in Cruz Bay (we never experienced a parking problem in Cruz Bay, but we always go in June (low season), but some note it as an issue during the high season,
2) It is easier to get your STJ based car fixed if you have an issue. We consider this possibility remote and willing take the low risk.
3) Some people have noted the difficulty in dealing with car barges (lines, getting on), but we always found the whole barge loading (backing on) and unloading to be very easy.
4) Passenger Ferries run later; so if you have a late flight or if your flight is delayed, then you might not be able to get your vehicle across if you rent on STT, but some of the STJ rentals can make arrangements for late vehicle pick-up.
5) You generally will have more time on the day you return to STT. This is because you should allow for more time if you are taking the car barge (but we heard stories the passenger ferry is not being a slam dunk either.

As far as costs go, we believe the costs for two people are fairly equivalent whether you rent on STT or STJ. Renting on STJ you have the costs of 1) the taxi, with tip, from the airport to the dock and then back again, 2) ferry bag handling fees & tips, 3) passenger ferry fare, 4) possible taxi on STJ to the car rental company and 5) higher car rental rates on STJ. Renting on STT you have a 1) lower car rental rate, 2) higher ferry cost with the car barge, and 3) some possible savings if you purchase food/booze on STT. The cost of renting on STJ goes up with the more people in your party since the taxi, passenger ferry, baggage handling fees & associated tips will all be based on the number of people and bags. Renting on STT stays the same since the car barge is the same cost regardless of how many people are in the car.

Whether you rent on STT or STJ we believe a 4WD is a must; unless you are staying around Cruz Bay and your driving is going to be fairly limited to around town. Some of the hills are incredible steep; when it rains a 2WD car may not make it; this is really hard to believe until you been on the island. Also, there are some access roads and driveways that can only be traversed with a 4WD.

We rented from Dependable, as mentioned above. They were very nice and helpful throughout the whole process – reservations, instructions, picking us up at the airport, rental paperwork, directions, maps, car return and taking us back to the airport. You avoid the airport tax with Dependable since they are just off of the airport property. We’ve heard good things about Budget too.

If you use the car barge you have the option of purchasing a one-way ticket or round-trip ticket. The one-way gives you flexibility on which car barge company to take back. A round-trip ticket will be less expensive, but will restrict which barge you can take. If you do go with round-trip: 2 of the barge companies (3 in total) use to except each other’s tickets, they still may. The loading area and process is the same no matter which company you use – it’s just whichever one is at the dock and available to drive onto.

We find the car barge to be a pleasant ride, here is Bob enjoying a Rum & Coke on the barge:
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Go Sox!

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:57 pm
by TropicAtHeart
I just booked a Jeep Wrangler (which has a top that can be removed) and Dependable told me they don't allow it to come off. So, is this something they officially discourage (maybe for legal safety), but unofficially are okay with?

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:31 am
by jayseadee
Hi Bob and Anita -

I've only rented from STJ but for a pro that you don't mention - "Avoid driving from the Airport to the ferry dock". Is driving on STT not as bad as it seems from the back of the taxi?

Ditto on the "go Sox!"

janet

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:22 am
by Bob & Anita
jayseadee wrote:Is driving on STT not as bad as it seems from the back of the taxi?
janet
We find driving on STT to the car barge is fairly easy. Just go the speed limit and you are fine. We did it the very first time we've ever rented and had no problems at all, but maybe we are more adventurous then most. Dependable is outside of the airport so you are already part way through Charlotte Amalie when we you begin driving, which is a bit helpful. There is just one intersection in Charlotte Amalie that we call “Malfunction Junction” with cars seemingly coming at you from both sides:
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But there are traffic lights and once you get past that point you are golden, just lots of curves and hills, very fun.

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:30 am
by Bob & Anita
TropicAtHeart wrote:I just booked a Jeep Wrangler (which has a top that can be removed) and Dependable told me they don't allow it to come off. So, is this something they officially discourage (maybe for legal safety), but unofficially are okay with?
That sounds like a different policy then they had when we rented a Wrangler from them in 2005. They had no restrictions then. The last two years we rented a Vitara from them because we had the boys with us and needed more room and the Vitara has a hard top. When we rented the Wrangler we ended up just taking the sides off do to the sudden and frequent showers that would pass through. This sides were easier and quickly to take off and put back on then the whole top.

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:42 pm
by TropicAtHeart
Thanks for the tip about taking the Wrangler sides off. That would be easier. We're renting a 4 door Wrangler and hopes it's big enough for 2 couples. We won't have much luggage (all carry-ons).

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:37 pm
by Connie
Wasn't aware that they have 4 door jeeps down there yet. With us..4 adults in one wranger, and 5 20 somethings in another, there was NO way we could get our luggage into that small tiny litte back. Luckily, we were staying at a villa and our greeter just threw everything up on top of his truck. If not, we would never of gotten our luggage there. Most of our crew had one small suitcase and then we had one medium size cooler with us.

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:59 pm
by RickG
Bob & Anita wrote:Here is our usual post regarding this question:

Go Sox!
Righteous work. I saved this one in the Take Away file. We are renting from Dependable in October. Something like trip #12 or #14, and this is our first time dealing with the car barge. The only down side seems to be my feeling of guilt when I drive past the Sutton's.

Thanks!

Cheers, RickG