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More Park Rules

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:25 pm
by Exit Zero
http://stthomassource.com/content/news/ ... rk-beaches

Some people will be happy and some not so much.

Re: More Park Rules

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:36 pm
by PA Girl
As an ex smoker that still remembers (fondly) the pleasures of a smoke and a beer on the the beach, after a couple of years nicotine free, I really dislike the chemical stentch of second hand smoke. I give a thumbs up to the restriction.

Re: More Park Rules

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:42 am
by Teresa_Rae
Thank God! I could not be happier about this news!

The cigarette litter problem has become so bad on STJ, and noticeably worse over the course of our 10 trips. Five years ago or so a traumatic incident occurred when my husband was lying on the beach and I found a cigarette butt stuck to his back, and since then his daily routine while on island has been to clean up cigarette butts. He keeps a count in his head and the numbers aren't pretty! I've seen them floating in the water too. Yuck.

Best news ever.

Re: More Park Rules

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:29 am
by jimg20
I can't complain about that.

JIM

Re: More Park Rules

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:48 am
by PA Girl
Who are these people that put their cig butts in the sand? We NEVER did that and our smoking friends never did that either. We had dedicated makeshift ashtrays and always disposed of them properly.

Re: More Park Rules

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:44 am
by toes in the sand
PA Girl wrote:Who are these people that put their cig butts in the sand? We NEVER did that and our smoking friends never did that either. We had dedicated makeshift ashtrays and always disposed of them properly.
The same folks who toss their butts out of the car window. Outta sight, Outta mind.

Re: More Park Rules

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:06 am
by loverotties
Love this :D !!!

Re: More Park Rules

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:12 am
by needmesomesun
I was so happy when they banned them in restaurants (finally could enjoy a meal!), and now this. Most importantly, our forum friends might be around a bit longer because of this. We unfortunately witnessed a long battle with cancer (caused by smoking) of a very close family member, and cared for her until the she passed. I can personally attest to the fact that is really wasn't a very peaceful passing. It makes me sad to think of anyone else (or their family) going through that.

Re: More Park Rules

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:24 pm
by sherban
Thumbs up from our family....yay! :mrgreen:

Re: More Park Rules

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:11 pm
by lark22
8) Happy here as well!

Cigarette butts aren't just regular trash; once they get into the ocean, they leach toxins and can harm or kill sea life.

And it's not just the cigarette butts themselves that are the issue -- I've always been amazed at how far cigarette smoke travels. When I'm on a National Park beach, immersed in St. John's astounding natural beauty, it's incredibly infuriating to be suddenly assaulted by the stench of cigarette smoke from halfway down the beach.

Re: More Park Rules

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:35 pm
by Jumper
Do you think this will be enforced? My last trip down I saw a large gold chained individual flick a butt right on the beach at Trunk, it was disgusting to see someone like that. I was not able to keep my mouth shut and almost ended up in an altercation. My wife kept me calm and put me back into place. I can feel my blood pressure go up just typing this.
I hope they crack down on this!!!

Re: More Park Rules

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:40 pm
by Exit Zero
Having a 50' tape measure might become a necessary beach accessory for smokers and non-smokers alike.

Re: More Park Rules

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:41 am
by liamsaunt
Jumper wrote:Do you think this will be enforced?
I think it is going to be very difficult to enforce. Some people will see the posted signs and obey, but many others are going to just do what they want. I don't think the Park Service has the manpower to patrol the many NPS beaches to enforce this rule, or even the other, older rules. Think of how many times you have seen glass bottles on the beach, heard amplified music on the beach, seen nekkid people on the beach--all currently prohibited but only occasionally enforced. I think your best bet for a smoke-free beach is Trunk since it is a staffed beach.

Cigarette smoke aggravates my asthma so I wish it were otherwise but that is my prediction.

Re: More Park Rules

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:36 pm
by chicagoans
Great news!

According to the article, "Morris [the park’s enforcement chief] said the rangers are not currently issuing tickets but rather aiming for “community support” on this issue."

Let's hope visitors obey the ban (better for their health if they do!) and don't get grumpy if someone asks them not to smoke at the beach.

Re: More Park Rules

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:02 pm
by tjwgrr
liamsaunt wrote:
Jumper wrote:Do you think this will be enforced?
I think it is going to be very difficult to enforce......
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Citizen's arrest.... citizen's arrest......


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