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RickG's group travel rules for St. John

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 12:20 pm
by RickG
Reposted by popular demand.

1. Don't invite anyone who is a whiner. Don't invite anyone that you would not spend a week with 1-on-1.

2. I pick the villa and the week and people get to decide if they want to come. It's okay if no one wants to come with me.

3. You get to pick your room in the order that you pay. I've already paid the deposit, so I go first. This deals with the equal rooms problem and #1 deals with whiners.

4. One vehicle per 2 couples with at least one person from each couple on the contract for each car. Expect there to be an early group and a late group each morning. This is not a problem. I get my own vehicle. I'm in the early group and my lover is in the late group.

5. Pick a beach each day that you want to visit; 11AM is a good rendezvous time. The late group can usually make it and the early group will have done a hike and another beach already. It's okay if no one meets me at the beach.

6. Do some happy hours at the villa. It's cheap and 6-8 people is a party. Bring Twister.

7. Dinner out for 6-8 is a pain in the a$$. Do some dinners at the villa and do some date nights. Meet for drinks before and after dinner. There's always room at the Beach Bar, Quiet Mon and Larry's Landing for 6-8.

8. Expect to spend a day without leaving the villa. Make sure that there is not a mid-week maid visit scheduled that day. Start the blender at 10AM, but put sunscreen on all exposed skin first.

9. Put $100 per person in a food/drink kitty for villa provisions. If someone is concerned that they won't spend that much and want differential treatment, that breaks rule #1 - they don't get to come. $800 will cover food and booze at the villa for 8 adults for a week. Dinner for 8 at Zozo's is $680.

Lessons learned:
- If someone whines at home, they will whine more on STJ.
- If someone pitches in at home they will pitch in more on STJ.
- 10 people feels much bigger than 8 people - 60% bigger - c=(n^2-n)/2
- The herd moves at the speed of the slowest beast.
- Don't be afraid to say "I'm heading out. I'll be back for sunset."
- Newbies will assume the villa is on the beach, even if you tell them otherwise and show them pictures. If they can't get over this, they stay at the Westin.
- #1 takes care of almost every possible problem.

Cheers, RickG

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 12:27 pm
by Pianogrl
LOVE IT!!!!

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 12:27 pm
by marruda
Rick,
Absolutely great words of wisdom. With your permission, I would like to print this out and hand to my villas guests in August.
take care,
Mike

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 12:31 pm
by Wolfhound
Perfect advice. Or you can go the way we do and just skip the group. Last year's trip with the MIL was enough of a group for me..... But it did get me the November bonus trip.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 12:41 pm
by piscesgirl0314
I love your style RickG. We roll by similar rules...Sounds like we vacationed together in another life.... :wink:

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 12:59 pm
by cat
After a few visits it is amazing how true these are! If you are new to St John please pay attention to all of them but #1 really is the most important one!!

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 1:02 pm
by sea-nile
Very good advice! We were lucky to have 9 at our last SOTB and no whiners!

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 1:19 pm
by LysaC
"It's okay if no one meets me at the beach."

Someone once stayed mad at hubby and I for an afternoon because we didn't meet them at a specific beach at an assumed (and not communicated) time.

I knew I would not prefer to vacation with them again after that.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:13 pm
by Fowst
You should copyright this and publish it; it's that good. Glad I saw it before you made your millions off it.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:30 pm
by TrvlJohn
Great advice!

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:37 pm
by theshopper3
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this list........

The Shopper

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:41 pm
by djmom
hilarious and true

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:42 pm
by adsjayhawk
1. Don't invite anyone who is a whiner. Don't invite anyone that you would not spend a week with 1-on-1.

Expect there to be an early group and a late group each morning. This is not a problem.


Brilliant! You are so right. Rules to live by 8)

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:03 pm
by caribechris
This is soooo right on target!!

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:21 pm
by chicagoans
Good stuff Rick!

We have done several vacations with other families (usually 10 - 12 people including kids. Lucky for us no whiners in the bunch!)

If I may be so bold as to add a couple family-related rules...

- Don't be afraid to tell someone else's kid to... get his own breakfast/put his dishes away/pick up his stuff/put on sunscreen/say please...etc.

- Welcome it when another adult tells your kid to ... (list as above)

Everyone watches out for each other's kids, and the kids know that they have extra parents for the trip. Traveling with a group can be so great! And Rick's #1 rule is a really good one.