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Cap's owner was killed

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:01 pm
by DCphoto
Wow, this is sad. The owner of Cap's was murdered in St. John

http://www.stjohntradewindsnews.com//in ... e&Itemid=1

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:05 pm
by P-600
Wow,that's awful.

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:48 pm
by Gromit
Like most crime on STJ my guess is that he was involved in something that he should not have been or it's a domestic violence issue.

Random violent crime rarely occurs on island.

Most all of the serious crime is drug related.

Just sayin...

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:55 pm
by Gromit
I thought I remembered a drug releated issue with Cap's Place. From the Source:

Cap's Place has been in the news before. A St. Thomas man was arrested in December for burglarizing the bar. The bar was the scene of a June 2008 armed robbery. Additionally, 14 illegal immigrants and 11 bags of crack cocaine were found in a December 2007 raid.

As always a violent crime of any kind is tragic and I am sorry for his family's loss.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:08 am
by mahojim
That news stinks.
I've personally never spent too much time at Caps',- just dipped in for a chilly one,or five,then continued moseying around town.
I never particularly felt as if it was some type of drug infested den, though.
Beats me; cheap cold beer, and relaxed island atmosphere.
That news stinks.
Smiles-
MJ

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:07 am
by tjwgrr
St. John Blog Talk is reporting the victim also owned Joe's BBQ- hate to lose that place.

Sad news after no murders on STJ in 2008.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:50 am
by XOXO
A permanent solution to what I imagine was a temporary problem. It is too bad. Murder never looks good for tourists.

Gina

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:01 am
by Wakey
GinaXOXO wrote:A permanent solution to what I imagine was a temporary problem. It is too bad. Murder never looks good for tourists.

Gina
It's a fact of life anywhere.

What looks worse to tourists is when the local police drag their feet with their "investigation".

But thats one man's opinion :wink:

PS Just to make sure that I'm not misunderstood, I am pro law enforcement. :D

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:31 am
by RonUSVI
Gromit, how can you make such a statement about someone you did not know or know anything about? The man was robbed, plain and simple. He owned businesses in St Thomas as well. He was a well respected businessman with children and grandchildren. Not quite the profile of a drug dealer as you infer.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:49 am
by MrB
RonUSVI wrote:Gromit, how can you make such a statement about someone you did not know or know anything about? The man was robbed, plain and simple. He owned businesses in St Thomas as well. He was a well respected businessman with children and grandchildren. Not quite the profile of a drug dealer as you infer.
Nods his head in total agreement.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:55 am
by Gromit
Ron -- My apologies. I tried to clarify my sympathies a bit better in my second post.

What I was trying to avoid was the inevitable discussion about how the islands are prone to random violence that usually ensues after an incident like this.

Since we have so may new people on the board I was trying to quell those fears and questions that inevitably follow.

Perhaps I could have better articulated my point.

At no time did I state that he was a drug dealer. I simply stated that "USUALLY" this is is a factor in the violent crime (minimal that it is) on island.

Am I wrong about this?

So what was the deal with the crack found and illegal immigrants found at Cap's place then as stated in the STJ Source?

Even if he wasn't directly involved that had to create some bad blood with someone, no?

STJ is a very small place that has it's benefits and its problems.

Again, my apologies if I came across as judgemental or harsh. I just don't wnat people thinking that this kind of thing is totally random. Because let's be honest -- 9 times out of 10 it is not.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:23 am
by DELETED
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:32 am
by shoemak38
Guys stop

This is a group of "friends" that should not have to worry and be attached if they do not choose the correct words when posting. We are not running for any Political offices here

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:46 am
by MrB
shoemak38 wrote:Guys stop

This is a group of "friends" that should not have to worry and be attached if they do not choose the correct words when posting. We are not running for any Political offices here
Personally, I think there is a difference between choosing the right words, and relaying the correct sentiment. The post in question clearly "blamed the victim" for this crime. We think that is wrong, and we said so. You yourself, shoemak, should not feel that you cannot express an opinion if you feel something crosses the line. I think that post did.

Trust me, I hold my tongue enough on this board.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:55 am
by toes in the sand
I am confused by the words of a few posts in this thread. I will just have to assume good intent. I am sad to hear of a life lost anywhere but especially in a place I like to imagine as a slice of paradise.