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Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:25 am
by iowaguy
I felt a little bad for Ramona. She was so excited about the extravagant trip she planned and all anyone did was complain. When Kelly got out the "Complaint Sheet" I thought---you're in a fabulous house in one of the most beautiful places in the world---at least for a few days, you really shouldn't have too many complaints. But of course they have many:)

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:31 am
by mbw1024
I didn't watch last night's episode yet but aren't the complaints all about "home"? They aren't complaining about the trip are they???????? :roll:

They don't get the 'leave it all behind' concept! But then of course it wouldn't be a show!

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:38 am
by Gromit
No. The complaints were all interpersonal and Kelly literally has a mental and emotional break (not breakDOWN -- but it almost seemed like a schizophrenic break). She is all over the place. her desperate need for sugar is also a clue IMHO.

Either it's mental or she's on drugs, or stopped taking her meds. But something is SERIOUSLY off about that chick.

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:48 am
by mbw1024
Gromit wrote:No. The complaints were all interpersonal and Kelly literally has a mental and emotional break (not breakDOWN -- but it almost seemed like a schizophrenic break). She is all over the place. her desperate need for sugar is also a clue IMHO.

Either it's mental or she's on drugs, or stopped taking her meds. But something is SERIOUSLY off about that chick.
she doesn't eat processed foods......but pass the gummi bears! :wink:

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:10 pm
by STTlover
I was thinking she might be Bi-Polar. The intense mood swings, not making any sense, fear that someone is out to get you, and yes the need for sugar. I'm no doctor though.

Sonja def. helped difuse the situation and got everyone to see that obviously she was not right and it was not worth fighting w/ a crazy person.

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:25 pm
by Gromit
Interesting insight from Bethenny:

Bethenny

I have to be honest. I felt for a few years now that I was seeing something in Kelly that I couldn't believe others couldn't see. I grew up in an insane asylum, so I can sense when someone is unstable from the beginning. I have seen signs of Kelly's erratic behavior for years now, and of course there was the domestic violence charge with her ex boyfriend. Things like that just don't happen to people. A large part of me feels sorry for her and sincerely thinks she should not be participating in a reality show environment. I don't think she can resist the temptation of the attention it brings regardless of the fact that it may not be good for her. Reality television is very stressful under the most normal circumstances.

For a brief period, it was the most eventful dinner party I've ever hosted, however, it took a scary, dramatic turn and we wanted to diffuse the situation. I realized that I needed to reel it in because this wasn't normal or healthy for anyone. Truth be told, what aired was very tame compared to what actually happened. I think that to air the full scope of it would terrify the viewers. We were truly terrified ourselves, and I must point out that none of us came home from that trip and told anyone about what went on there. We understood how serious it was and we were all scared. That night when I went to bed, I was legitimately scared for my safety as well as Kelly's. I know Alex felt the same. It was a completely horrendous trip and experience. That is the God's honest truth.


Excerpted from the Examiner DC: http://www.examiner.com/x-14380-Celebri ... ous-haters

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:03 pm
by lprof
Gromit wrote:Interesting insight from Bethenny:
From the above...
"It was a completely horrendous trip and experience."

Too sad in every way...
if everyone feels this way, why didn't someone stop it sooner?
I understand that Kelly may have left the island following this dinnertime encounter.
I guess time will tell.

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:33 pm
by Tracy in WI
Wow. What a train wreck. The only funny part about the entire episode was when the pelicans were diving into the ocean and they commented on the "ducks"!

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:35 pm
by Gromit
@Tracy-- I didn't even see what they were referring to when they said that -- it was such a quick shot-- but I KNOW there are no ducks on island.. so guess what? 8)

I just assumed that place was so ritzy that they had ducks on the property cause the owner liked them or something! :oops:

I know, blond moment!! :D

Go ahead... judge. :lol:

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 2:01 pm
by lprof
Gromit wrote:but I KNOW there are no ducks on island.. so guess what? 8)
Actually I have seen ducks on the island... the salt pond at Kiddel Bay.

And... there was a duck in the water where the pelican dived on the show. :roll:


No judgements... just the facts! :wink:

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 2:11 pm
by Gromit
I swear I have never seen a duck there. Good to know though!!

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:01 pm
by StJohnRuth
You mean you saw an actual duck, as in the Donald kind?
I didn't know we had those here!
Are you sure it wasn't a pet of the owner or something?

- Ruth

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:01 pm
by lprof
It is beginning to sound to me like the show was VERY unscripted and that unexpected reactions were the result. I'm hoping that "acting without a script" was at fault for such a "painful" evening.

In reading the blogs (since last night) of these women I was looking for the St John references... villa, water, people, places....

Bethenny's blog... no comment on anything island, except that "St John is very difficult to get to".
She said elsewhere that "It was a completely horrendous trip and experience."

Ramona was the hostess whose blog read...
"I did not tell the ladies our next stay would be at this amazing villa. When I saw the majestic villa jutting off the bluff I could not contain myself, I had to give it up. I am not a jaded person or overly impressed, but I have to say, this villa in St. John was beyond anything I had ever visited or seen. The cameras did not begin to do it justice. The workmanship and the attention to detail in the woodwork, stonework, and ironwork was amazing. It was not gaudy - it was completely elegant."

From Alex McCord's blog...
"V is for villa - Presidio del Mar was the most spectacular villa I've ever seen on an island. Gorgeous, phenomenal and beautiful, and we did have a great time, despite all the drama you see unfolding."

Two short quotes taken from the text of Sonja* Morgan's blog...
"Ramona did nothing but arrange a wonderful trip. Presidio del Mar of St John on Peter's Bay is absolutely stunning and well laid out. I really enjoyed discovering this home, its gardens (remember I am a gardener) and meeting the charming owner."
"I needed a vacation after this vacation. My sympathies to Ramona for her great efforts (and everyone's by the way) but not my idea of a vacation."

Kelly's blog is short...
"Always follow your instincts.
I knew I should have never gone on the trip.
I am incredibly embarrassed by how I acted."

Sounds like the villa impressed them....
What about the beaches, the food, the drinks, the goats, the frogs... all the things we go to St John to relish????


Too sad!!!

*spelling corrected.

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:11 pm
by lprof
StJohnRuth wrote:You mean you saw an actual duck, as in the Donald kind?
I didn't know we had those here!
Are you sure it wasn't a pet of the owner or something?

- Ruth
Ruth! Are you saying I imagine things????

Presidio's owner with a pet duck??? I wonder!

No, not The Donald kind...

Gerald Singer places them at several places - including Frank Bay's salt pond!
Maybe some chickens have displaced them???
http://www.stjohnbeachguide.com/Beaches/frank.html

If I can find a pic from the Kiddel Bay area, I'll add it later.

Edited: No pix of ducks on the salt pond found.
But the discussion made me wonder if "The Donald" has stayed at the Presidio. Slow day here....

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:28 pm
by STTlover
There are little brown ducks that swim in the pool at Sapphire on STT.